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ChristianSingleton

/r/Scams has a little spat when the owner of paywithmoons.com shows up to defend their product

General Thread here - warning, this is a rather short thread so don't get your hopes up for a really meaty argument - but to jump into the background of everything:

For those unaware, there are 3 (last I heard/checked at least) subs that have different forms of cryptocurrency you can earn by participating in their sub: r/ethereum (donuts), r/fortnight (bricks), and r/cryptocurrency (moons). You get a certain amount of moons/donuts/bricks for every post/comment that gets upvoted, and each sub has rules based on what each is worth, what the caps are, etc etc etc. These different cryptocurrencies are stored in the reddit vault, and can be used like more or less any other crypto in that they can be exchanged and have different ecosystems built around them. One of these particular platforms is paywithmoons, which I'm assuming is a platform in which moons can be exchanged for various goods and/or services (too lazy to check). One user reports having over $5000 frozen on there (and with a current 7 cent conversion rate, that is a lot of moons accumulated over time), and other users report having similar issues, or that the platform used has a universally low rating on different websites. There is your typical crypto is a scam discussion here and there that always happens when it gets brought up as well, but the founder of paywithmoon shows up to defend their product

So, here are a few of my favorite / most juicy parts of the discussion (and again, keep in mind it is a really short thread):

Accounts are usually suspended for engaged in fraud or other suspected illegal activity - and it is also where users realize this is the creator of the platform

Another top level comment calling out the founder's account

Top level comment of the founder

Top comment of the thread - not part of the main drama, but they do have a discussion about whether it is racist to refer to India as the scam capital of the world

This is basically the entire thread, everything else is drama free (and not much discussion in general outside of that) at the time of posting. Enjoy!

Posted Jan 1, 2023, 1:56 AM UTC

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Nekazā€¢

SIR DO NO REDEEM

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rinkoplzcomehomeI should sue you for making me read this and lose braincellsā€¢

NOOOOOOO NOOO NOO NO NO NO!!

WHY DID YOU REDEEM static noises

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Macquarrie1999Democrats have never been this happy since 911ā€¢

I found this gem there

If you're like me and on disability, you're not allowed to have a bank account because they don't want you squirreling away what they give you to survive. Meanwhile we can use PayPal and other apps without any kind of repercussions, as far as I know. Unfortunately that leads to us being more vulnerable to these kinds of ploys šŸ˜…

I'm 100% sure this is false.

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lady_of_luckā€¢

There is a niggling of truth in there in the first half.

SSI recipients have exceedingly low savings limits they're allowed to have before repayment is required or, in unfortunate cases, benefits are cut-off outside of specialized, heavily restricted ABLE accounts (with that last bit presuming they meet the age requirements and that their state has a functional enough ABLE program for that not to be a complete nightmare). It's $2k for an individual and $3k combined for a couple (which, yes, means two disabled people getting married can screw them over, but that's a whole other rant for another time).

That said, everything except very specific property is counted towards that limit, so no, squirreling stuff away in crypto schemes does not legally help you. It only makes it easier to commit what is, super unfortunately, fraud because it's harder for the government to catch.

SSI savings limits are a whole pile of bullshit, but you cannot get around them with This One Weird Trick(TM).

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clubberinā€¢

Iā€™m on SSDI and was confused about this, but this seemed to be related to the option if you were granted Medicare immediately.

Iā€™m not swimming in dough but Iā€™ve had a decent balance in my account and havenā€™t heard anything.

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ChristianSingletonOPAnother Social Left publication, doing it's Chinatown dance....ā€¢

Lmfaoooooo I missed that the first time around, good catch

I'm not an expert, but that sounds like it directly goes against the ADA

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goatfuckersupremeyou like to stir shit and deeply inhale itā€¢

which part? i know you aren't allowed to save on disability

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ChristianSingletonOPAnother Social Left publication, doing it's Chinatown dance....ā€¢

The part where people with a disability "are not allowed to have a bank account" - I'm aware there are limitations on savings and whatnot, but I'd be surprised if there was a rule that prohibited people with disabilities to have bank accounts

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TatteredCarcosaā€¢

They're using hyperbole but they aren't wrong about your savings being strictly and severely restricted.

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Sharp-Jackfruit825ā€¢

I have never heard that I'm on VA Disability and theyve never told me I can't save.

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plz2meatyuIts like nihilism but stupidā€¢

VA disability and SSI disability seem to be different

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Muffin_Appropriateā€¢

A fool and their money are easily parted.

I struggle to feel bad for these people but yeah that sucks. But, jesusā€¦. Get some financial education.

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pezmanjoe mamaā€¢

i do feel sorry for people like this. there are many out there that truly believe most people have good will in mind, which is a good but also terrible trait to have. unfortunately the truth is scammers are around every corner and everything should be taken with a grain of salt. i canā€™t fault someone for not wanting to believe that and thinks humanity is naturally kind hearted.

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pragueprideSo why is me posting a cyberpunk esque shot of my dick not porn?ā€¢

I struggle to feel bad for these people but yeah that sucks. But, jesusā€¦. Get some financial education.

The people i feel sorry for are non cryptos who get suckered in like a through influencer scams. They are just fans of Jake Paul or Donald Trump and want to participate in a community and trust their guru of choice when they say this will make u money.

The worst suckers are the ones who join ā€œscam groupsā€ hoping to help scam others w/ pump and dumps or rug pulls but are they themselves scammed. These ones i have zero pity for.

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fartemous_foulā€¢

So...reddit... cryptocurrency?

Can we get and SRD coin? I want to profit off of my luke warm takes.

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helmsmagusI promise I will never regret telling you to jump off a bridge. ā€¢

This is good for dramacoin

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UncommonTheIdkā€¢

Just a small correction but r/FortNiteBR uses the brick currency, while r/fortnight doesnt exist

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Chaosmusicā€¢

Accounts are usually suspended for engaging in suspected fraud or other illegal activity

Aren't those the 2 primary uses of crypto?

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HKBFGeuthanize your cat, because it is the vegan thing to do.ā€¢

On a shady low volume platform like that? Those are the only uses.

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DutchieTalkingWhat color are the nipples?ā€¢

The primary use of cryptocurrency is value speculation.

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[deleted]ā€¢

Crypto bros can't stop taking a big fat L no matter where they turn to lmao.

Zero sympathy lol, scammy little fools deservedly parted from their family's money. Hopefully they end up as paupers on the street like most crypto bros do.

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DutchieTalkingWhat color are the nipples?ā€¢

These different cryptocurrencies are stored in the reddit vault

You can access them through the reddit vault. Which is really just a wallet.

You can also access them via wallets like metamask. They're actually stored within the blockchain. As long as you have your private key and seed phrase you can access it wherever.

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AncientBlondeā€¢

OP; I think you missed something with the drama.

It's paybymoon; not pay by moons. It's a scammy virtual credit card service: but has nothing to do with moons.

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45670891bnmā€¢

People on the scams sub are almost evangelical in going after people. I posted a response to someone basically saying they had no proof to a certain claim made about Andrew tate, cause it was literally made up (had zero credible source). Got downvoted about 80 times, jumped on by loads of weirdos and one guy said something like "we know who you are, your type. You defend these people so you can go round scamming others to buy your shitty watches" like what the fuck šŸ˜‚ I have an old post of a Rolex I own on the watch sub and they've put that together with my post to then call me some sort of scammer as well? Highly weird and embarrassing

Edit

The person claimed he had been released from custody. I'm not defending him you absolute imbeciles

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StupidDogCoffeeā€¢

Oh man I am sure Andrew Tate really appreciates your loyal support lol

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ChristianSingletonOPAnother Social Left publication, doing it's Chinatown dance....ā€¢

Lmfao damn yo looks like it happened on two different subs :p

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