Conn’s Wiki
Posted Jan 1, 2023, 9:44 PM UTC
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Some of y’all weren’t around for Kahn and it shows.
As bad as the Rudy trade is looking, TC might have drafted better players this year than Kahn did outside of Ricky.
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Rubio was like that tho
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Rubio was a no brainer pick at the time (outside of him maybe not wanting to come here).
Some people forget how hyped he was after the '08 Olympics.
Outside of Rubio, Kahn didn't pick one player who'd be in our rotation.
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I’ll agree with that. If only he grabbed Steph curry
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If only he grabbed Steph curry
I honestly think that at the time, it was justifiable (no matter how and it looks now).
At the time, he was seen as an undersized 2 who played lesser competition. He had shoddy knees (or ankles?) and wouldn't let our team Drs look at him because he didn't want to be here. (if only we knew Flynn would have career ruining injuries).
Flynn also had a good college career running the triangle, which is what we were trying to run.
Flynn was a reach, and obviously the wrong choice. But I always and forever will stand by that picking Wes Johnson over Boogie was his worst, least defensible pick.
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I suppose it is a safe play if you've gotten lucky enough with prior picks to be known as a good drafter/prospect hunter up until this point, to then trade away most of your future picks you would further be held accountable for. Ride that draft history a little longer. Limit the chances for future fuckups
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Armchair GMs are wild.
It's more than likely owners pushed for this trade.
And even with trading picks, TC looks like he drafted 3 players better than Kahn ever did outside of Ricky
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I've already read your same post in another thread and I have no clue what you are trying to claim with that. Like based on what?
You want to claim Moore and Minot were great picks already? Go figure... fans be wild positive about recent draft picks that haven't had the chance to fail yet.
I've already posted here that I believe the Kessler pick doesn't really happen if they didn't already have a trade in earnest planned with Utah. As Kessler's known blocking fiendishness was a perfect filler for the hole Gobert was going to leave in utah's fanbase' minds after losing him. Might they have seen him as a useful player here? Maybe. But I think it would have to have been expectations for far down the roard, not immediate here. Like Moore and Minot, playing in the G with occasional pullups. I don't see KAT giving up the Center role for a rookie, hell naw. It would have been Reid giving up all backup duties even if they forced Kessler into early play as a rookie.
Whatever the case, he already traded the top pick of 2022, then 2023 and every other year after it. No sense in claiming he knew Kessler was some great draft choice if he didn't keep him around for even a summer league look.
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You want to claim Moore and Minot were great picks already?
No, not that at all actually.
fans be wild positive about recent draft picks that haven't had the chance to fail yet.
Sure, but look at Kahn's picks. Where are the rotation players?
Are Moore or Minott locks for the rotation? No. But I bet they end up better for us than Robbie Hummel was.
My point is what I said. Kahn was an awful drafter (among everything else), so people are just plain wrong when they say TC is as bad (or worse) than him.
That's how bad Kahn was at drafting. That's how low the bar is.
Kahn's top 3 picks were Ricky, Wayne Ellington, and Derrick Williams.
I've already psoted here that I believe the Kessler pick doesn't really happen if they didn't already have a trade in earnest planned with Utah.
I tend to agree with this take, though hard to say.
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David Kahn’s teams had an improved record every single season. Kahn is underrated.
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This comment is manna from heaven
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Certainly can’t call Kahn overrated.
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I've been searching for the right person to ask.
How did Kahn go about earning the team two chances high in the lotto that draft to end up picking two PGs and obviously skipping steph? Nobody ever talks about why Wolves had two picks there.
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Kahn’s first trade https://www.basketball-reference.com/executives/kahnda99x.html
About 85% of people favored Steph over Flynn at the time. Steph’s camp told Kahn that Steph would sit out rather than play for the Timberwolves. Kahn chose Johnny Flynn over Steph, Flynn got injured and never realized his potential.
Kahn is not liked because he doesn’t have the most likely personality. He actually inherited a horrible roster and did a good job manufacturing roster flexibility. I speculate that Kahn was instructed to cut costs as Taylor was shopping the team and the team was on the verge of being moved.
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Hard to do worse than 15
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Wait a couple years
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A couple?
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Yeah, it is going to take a couple years for KAT and ANT to force there way out.
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This is hilarious!
Not even one year and a wiki update like this?? Yikes
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He dismantled a fun team unfortunately
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Honestly, this comment sums up the entire fanbase, at least on this sub.
Why is fun more important than winning? Is watching a flashy team that’s constantly in the lottery really that entertaining?
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We are not winning
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We aren’t.
And the issue isn’t that we’re not fun. The issue is we don’t know how to play basketball.
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Excuse me, a fun team that was in the playoffs AND was winning. If we could have stopped the bleeding with our 20 point leads we could have been in the second round. Completely changed it up rather than have any sort of patience.
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We’ve had a fun team in the playoffs once since 2004.
Maybe we start expecting multi-million dollar athletes perform before we start caring about if they’re having fun.
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anybody can update wikipedia btw
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Factual
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I always find these attention seeking "look at my wiki edit guys!" threads really weird.
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Are you assuming I made the edit?
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Go back and watch Kahnelly's press conference after he announced the trade. Dude was sweating bullets like he just got out of the jungles of Vietnam. Point is I think he knew he gave up too much but will never admit it.
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can someone explain the nickname? i don’t get it
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David Kahn was a previously awful GM and now we have another awful GM named Connelly. Kahnelly
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You might need to adjust your scale a bit. If Connelly is awful then Kahn is something indescribably terrible. There has not been a word created to describe how bad Kahn was.
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Sure, but Conn has been awful in a very short amount of time. Obviously Kahn was much worse but this idiot traded years worth of picks for Gobert and we don’t seem to have much flexibility. Not to mention he has a $40 million dollar contract and an ownership stake. I think the damage he’s done in this short amount of time is baffling.
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You're blaming him for his contract?
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I can't wait to see who the Jazz draft with our picks. If any of the 4 lottery picks we shipped them end up being All-Stars it's an utter disaster. Kessler is already looking better than Rudy Goober and he's a fucking 21 year old rookie.
If anybody thinks this trade looks bad now just wait until 2029 when the Jazz are still drafting with our picks.
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McHale has now become a good Timberwolf executive by historical standards.
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Nailed it.
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Con is literally in his name. We’re doing too much work. Connedme
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I don’t see anything wrong
It’s perfect
All the facts check out
I mean it was actually 5 FRPs not 4 that Kahnelly traded for Goober but it's whatever. Egregious either way.
Just glad I was one of the people at the time who hated the trade and thought Kahnelly should be drug tested and or investigated for Utah Jazz ties. At least I wasn't a homer or beat reporter blowing smoke up this subs ass about how ingenious the trade was.
It was 4 and a swap, no? So not 5. And the way we're going that top 5 protected might actually stay with us. Lol.
4 and a swap plus Kessler who we had picked in the first a few weeks earlier
Yes, it was 5 plus a swap
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