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daagar

The mythical all-in-one character

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Does anyone else ever struggle with trying to find that one class that can do everything, with no downsides?

I'm a fairly casual player, so of course I personally want something that works well open world, questing, achievement gathering. Oh, and good survivability. A simpler rotation. Boy, better have a heal spec too in case I want to do that. But wait, what if I want an easy time doing old content for mogs and mounts? Of course, I want to do some raiding and dungeons at some point.. better not be something that doesn't get invites. And so on.

And for some reason, I have it in my head that I should be able to do all this in one character. Which as a non-competitive player is even more silly, because it isn't like alts are limited. I'm not going to be pushing keys where I must focus all attention on gearing up that one spec. But oh no... what if it turns out I do want to, and my class is all wrong...

And so it goes.

Edit: thanks all for input. At the end of the day, for a non competitive player, just embrace alts. It isn't the WoW of old where you HAD to have a single character.

Posted Jan 7, 2023, 6:01 PM UTC · edited

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Infernalism•

Uh, druids.

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daagarOP•

Touche. And if dwarves could be druids, that might be the answer. I'm my own worst enemy!

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karangoswamikenz•

Paladins then. But damage spec is on and off unless you’re doing the best content. Holy is a bit of a learning curve but quite fun

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Crunchyleafz•

On and off returning noob since 06’. Spare for a little while during vanilla.. At least one of the druids specs has always been meta/ a/s-tier.

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Round-Rice908•

I love the concept of druids. Being able to fit ANY role, but I've just never been able to like them. I don't like all the shapeshifting. I know, im weird but its how i feel.

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Rhaenyss:priest: •

Definitely druid, others are not even close. What gives it the edge over paladin is instant mount form and mounted gathering, all the speed buffs in cat form and stealth.

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Capsfan6•

Instant mount form is useless in DF and everyone can gather while mounted now. But stealth is huge

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Rhaenyss:priest: •

They're also pretty fast in cat form plus sprint talents.

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daagarOP•

But see, then aesthetics comes into it. Plate and cloth are way cooler looking than leather. And who wants to be a silly bird thing? And... no dwarves.

To be honest, I wasn't really asking for class recs (though they are welcome! ), it was more of a mindset thing and how to stop being so spazzy.

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Outrageous_Soil_5635•

This is the real issue with druid. Its armor is aesthetically pleasing but cat form, bear form, moonkin all feel bad. The star forms ok but still should be optional.

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Lamplorde•

Kul Tiran forms are rad af, though Moonkin still looks silly.

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Rhaenyss:priest: •

In that case, I'd go dwarf paladin or beast mastery hunter. Dwarves really are awesome, I have paladin, death knight and shaman dwarf. I've personally solved the dilemma by having an army of alts and multiples of the same class.

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Administrative-Ad970•

Unless you plan on pushing bleeding edge mythic content, play what you like. Not coming after you but I'm tired of seeing "oh I'm a casual player, what class is topping parses right now?". It doesn't matter because you probably won't be don't anything that requires that level of meta. that's not a dig, just the facts. I'm casual too and i have every class at max because i get bored lol.

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daagarOP•

Not taken as a dig at all! I will ultimately just have everything at max because you are right... end game performance is a silly metric when not playing end game.

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Administrative-Ad970•

Exactly. That and classes get balanced all the time. Ret pallys are getting a huge damage buff too. Much better to learn a class you like and play it well then the people who play meta classes and think they can just roll their way through.

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Scharnle•

I feel like playing meta gets you easier invites to pug groups but that's about it. Being able to play your class well is what matters. A good ret pally will top meters in a casual heroic guild easily (also considering their damage is solid even before buff).

At the mythic level or high keystones, specs start mattering more. But outside of that, just being a good player is what one should strive for

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stokeswow•

Druid has tank, heal, melee DPS and ranged DPS specs

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Ragedwaffles•

Druids. Two of their specs are top tier right now. Bear tank isn't exactly a slouch but it could be better. Resto and feral are basically S tier

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Invisibaelia•

You might enjoy Final Fantasy 14 - every toon can play every class (once unlocked), you just change weapon to change to that class. Same with gathering and crafting. It's got some really long cut scenes that tried my patience, but the storyline is also great so it's hard to complain.

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daagarOP•

Haha... it is actually FFXIV that got me this way. Over there, there was no such worry! By far one of the best features of that game.

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Invisibaelia•

I've just bounced back to WoW! Dragonflight is such a big leap in enjoyable gameplay. I'm with you on wishing you could do more with one character though

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chrsjxn•

It costs $60 to boost a character to 60, or less than 24 hours of play time if you just quest it out. Just make an alt

You only need one M+ or two raid bosses each week to get loot out of the vault, and there's a ton of world content that gives gear right now, so you can make meaningful progress without a huge commitment

And since you seem to be pretty heavily invested in aesthetics, two characters will make it a lot easier to farm old transmogs. Especially if they share armor or weapon types

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CaptainFlowers09•

Wait why does having two characters make it easier? Asking as a noob

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logicbox_•

Multiple lockouts for raids.

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kungfen:cov-necro: •

I've struggled with this off and on. At the end of the day you have to just kind of accept that the "perfect" character doesn't exist (and if it did, it'd be bad for the game cause everyone would just play that).

The best way to approach it (for me, anyway) is to find the class whose disadvantages don't bother you, or at least you like the upside enough that you can overlook them.

I'm a lifelong Melee DPS player who finally moved from warrior to monk because I wanted the option of a healing spec if I ever decide to go that route. I'm squishier than I used to be but I don't sacrifice any mobility (I just couldn't play DK or Paladin because they felt so sluggish compared to what I'm used to).

I can't do everything with my monk, but I'm good at the stuff I care the most about. Hopefully that's helpful to you.

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Subject_Occasion_726•

If you like the speed of wheelchairs, DK does it all.

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jaykaywhy:horde::alliance: •

Whenever I get this feeling, I play ff xiv. One character can be all jobs and have all professions.

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daagarOP•

Yep ffxiv broke me. Love that feature so much, which is why focusing here is such a challenge. For me, anyway.

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DeckardPain:alliance::shaman: •

Sounds like FF14 is the game for you. Not joking. One character can be all the classes and look however you want. No race locked classes.

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daagarOP•

Haha, yep. Have played it, just enjoy the "feel" of wow more. But heck if I wouldn't love that feature.

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DeckardPain:alliance::shaman: •

The more I play WoW the more I feel like 14 got class design down way better. Every class is fun to play save for 1 or 2. In WoW they all kinda lose their cool factor after a few weeks for me. But I think the gameplay itself is a little better in WoW. Also the PvP in 14 is just abysmal. Give and take I guess.

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musph:x-asan: •

Welcome fellow altaholic. You’ll get heaps of recommendations for Druid, and rightfully so; they have been able to consistently remain not only viable, but also competitive in one spec or another. Mechanically Druid is what your after, but thematically and aesthetically Druid is (imho, ofc) ass, soz Druid fam:

• Like your mog? Farmed legacy content for that sweet glowing stick? Not anymore. You now stare at bear asshole all day.

• Like to sling spells? Feel too self conscious to wear a dress? Diabetic chicken or magic sparkle ghost. ✨

• Like healing that slaps? No ma’am, imma gentle tickle you with leaves and glowing green shit. A mushroom or something. Top healing meters like a champ though.

• Big numbers make blood flow to your pee pee? Your breath smells like fish and all your bags slots are filled with fur.

• Spent weeks in the Mage Tower getting that sweet, sweet bipedal bear skin? Your whole party will breath a sigh of relief because they know their tank is GOOD. You’ll nail every shortcut and time every key. Be prepared for your party to laugh at your mail armour when you shapeshift back.

Jokes aside, hybrid classes have been a safe bet for ages and give you a solid flex pick, and despite what Sweaty McCuttingEdge tells you, play whatever makes you happy - you’ll stick with it for longer and be happier in general. It’s a game, you’re in Azeroth to have fun and escape.

Pixilated glory stays in game when you log off.

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mikeeeyT•

As others have said I don't believe there's a singular "all in one" class but I do think that with whatever class you play, being able to change specs and perform is a fairly underrated skill. Particularly for pure DPS classes (also think it's great for the hybrids but switching btwn heal, tank and DPS is a different ball game than just say switching from frost mage to fire mage). Each spec a class has tends to be more suited for certain content at any given time and being able to switch and take advantage of that is a beautiful thing. Not to mention how seemingly random blizzard buffs and nerfs classes (They use a dartboard I think?) It's good to be as versatile as you can. Obviously the same can be achieved with alts but since the thread is about a single character, I thought id mention. Also... Apologies if this is super obvious, I spent a lot of years playing MM hunter and refusing to switch to BM or survival even if they were clearly a better fit for the task I was gonna do. Or even worse.. just picking whatever spec the internet said was the "top DPS" for a class and never changing from it

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Eversorr:alliance::warlock: •

Warlock

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daagarOP•

Will admit I kinda ignored them for a long time since I wasn't sure I could "go" for the theme. Previewed a few dark iron options and that is becoming much less of a difficulty!

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Ok-Jellyfish8047•

Pally is in a good spot in all specs atm. Maybe wouldnt highend m+ as a hpal, but ret and prot are strong. Hpal is great in pvp and raid tho

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sdgkaf•

Paladin too

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daagarOP•

See, you'd think so. But everyone seems to hate ret a hpaly playstyle right now. So clearly thats not the right choice! I'm being pedantic, but goofy crap like that is always in the back of my mind.

Edit: haha, I'm being downvoted on this comment, but don't mistake me for saying paladins are bad. I have no idea from personal experience. It is just one of those silly things that you read, and it influences your indecision.

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tokendoke:horde::alliance: •

I've read most your comments on this thread, you're looking too right now. Things change every week, season and xpac. Play the class you feel is fun, not what is or isn't the flavour of the month.

Pallys are a great class right now and decent in all specs and you can play a dwarf. Otherwise you are looking at monk which 2 specs are shite at the moment with 1 viable space for current season(see first comment).

Or just play multiple classes, that's what I do and I don't generally even play multiple specs of one class.

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daagarOP•

I think that's the answer... don't plan on using one character to do it all. If not doing competitive endgame, there is just no need. I'm a returning wow player, and it isn't like the old days when everything was character locked. I think I still have that mentality.

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llwonder:horde::paladin: •

Paladin is still fun. You’re overthinking all this. No class is best at everything but the main hybrids can successfully fill every role

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riggels:horde::monk: •

The is no such character

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daagarOP•

Exactly! So how do you break that mindset and actually stick with something. Because it really is just mindset...

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fakemeharderbby•

I like mages cause we can teleport to major cities which is nice. Makes it closer to what I’ve come to expect in MMOs, teleports to major cities.

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Airwindof•

Bear.

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