Best Currently Available (and affordable) Premium Ship for Credit Farming - AKA: This question again

Question

After plenty reading, I'm hearing the most important factor is being able to perform well with your ship above all else. I'm a returning player who hasn't touched the game in a few years, but my two all-time favorites were the St. Louis and Phoenix. Mostly the St. Louis though, due to its absurd number of cannons, high ROF, and ability to set fires. Watching the damage trickle and opponents wither away from slow burns was great. I've also enjoyed some BBs as well, particularly the ones with decent range--I find that's important for me as I'll easily overextend myself and run straight into a pile of enemies if not given the chance to sit back for a minute and read the situation.

Not looking to spend boatloads of IRL cash, nor do I necessarily need the absolute best algorithmically, scientifically proven credit-per-second to USD ship. Just looking for a solid one. It seems tiers 6-9 are the usual picks, but many that I've seen mentioned here over the past few months are no longer available in the premium shop.

Cruisers and BBs, I suppose. But for anyone finding this here or in a Google search, give me your DD recommendations as well!

Posted Jan 18, 2023, 6:24 AM UTC

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Henri_GOLORetired :cv: main, gunboat :dd:goes brrr •

With the economic rework pretty much any t9 premium ship will do the job. Some ships like KII with Kobayashi camo or old Missouri used to have a built-in credit bonus but if you haven't them you can't get them now (you can buy KII, but not the credit boost).

The best credit farm would be a ship in which you perform, obviously, t9 because they earn more credits than other tiers, with perma eco booster and red credit booster.

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Alex470OP•

I gotcha. Any good firestarters in tier 9? I've heard the Mainz is (or was) supposed to be a good one for raw damage. Assuming, of course, that raw damage is still partly how credits are earned.

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Bahnda•

What's the highest tier you've played so far? If your current ones are tier 3's and 4's, it's going to be very tough to jump to tier 8 or 9 straight from there.

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Bug_PhotographerOmaha Main•

^This

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Cptn_Beefheart•

Tier 9's are going to be matched with superships, not a good idea if you're not ready for them.

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Alex470OP•

Oh, I’ll edit my post. Should have stated that explicitly. My highest tier to date is a 7, the Shchors (or however they spell it), then the tier 6 Bayern.

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ServantOfNyrro•

Since you're 'only' at Tier VII, continue the grind on those two lines until at least Tier IX before you decide on a paid premium, so you get the hang of the matchmaker and gameplay vs Tier X/superships, otherwise any recommendation provided may be double-edged.

If you don't mind getting something lower tier, try out Lazo for 83k coal (or if you've got the FXP and don't mind gambling, though not much time left for it), you can fish for her via the Legendary Commander's Supply bundles (or get the whole lot if you've got enough FXP). You can play it in pretty much the same fashion as Shchors, while serving as a captain trainer for the VMF CL line.

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Yowomboo•

If you're spending money, buy premium time. It far more valuable than a premium ship. It increases the credits earned on every ship you play. With premium time you should earn enough credits while grinding to purchase the tier 8. The tier 9 may require you grind some credits though. You can get multiple tier 8 without having to grind for credits. At that point you can decide which tier 9 and 10 you would like to shoot for. This should also give you an idea on what play style you enjoy. You can then pick a fitting tier 9 premium that you will enjoy playing.

Without knowing you're skill level I can say whether you'll perform well at tier 9 or not right now.

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I know I'll get down voted for promoting borderline cancer, but kearsarge, lately it has been treating me quite well, but I'm also quite used to using tiny tim planes and the 16in/45 guns. Fun ship, play at mid range with the dispersion module and blap cruisers and bb's not paying attention and when a target doesn't present itself, you launch planes and go do some spotting and slam a cruiser or bb camping behind/next to an island. Plus, if you have friends who has an enterprise and another kearsarge go form up an American 899 div and assert historical dominance by carrier sniping Kaga's and Shokaku's.

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ArttuPerkunas•

Mainz is overall a fantastic cruiser... in randoms, but also and especially in operations.

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Charisma_meltdown•

Well, actually, u earn any kind of eco per the percentage u do to an enemy vessel. So if u do, in example, ~10k on a dd, it's ~50%, that's great. U do 20k to a bb. It's ~20%, and it's not worth the same. That is what most ppl don't even understand. If u do like 20% to 5 ships and some guy run over a sub and did 100% just there, he will score higher = more bxp/ credits

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Inevitable-Ad-6334•

so what youre saying is i should get a premium ship thats good at destroying DDs and Cruisers.. hmmm Would that likely be a gu nboat DD or a cruiser? I dont play battleships.

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sputnikatto[NARAI]calicogato - Gets seasick.•

Yeah credits are based off of damage dealt. Mainz is pretty great, 17.5 range, 12 barrels of 150 mm, 6 second reload and 950 m/s.

It doesn't have the greatest armor, so you should be kiting a lot, but it's basically a never-ending rain of high explosive shells.

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Charisma_meltdown•

It's based on the % dealt to individuals. 10k on a dd is, for example, ~50%, 10k on a bb ~10%. So, maxing out damage on one target is more rewarding. This is why bbs should shoot dds more often, also cause dds win games.

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ActionJ2614•

Gronningen for FXP as a DD is a fire starter. Plus, one of the few tier 9 that stays competitive when uptiered in the current meta. Insane reload, USA smoke duration, 5km hydro, excellent AA, and good credit earning ship, especially with the bonus against higher tier ships (10&Supers).

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spiritslay1•

eugen ,spee warspite and ashtaka also have those built in credit boosters if you had the national or kobyash camos,might be forgetting a few

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Soviet_CarebearCarebear Glare :snoo_disapproval:•

München is a pretty good cruiser that I make a good bit of credits with. Long range kiting damage farmer. Range is pretty good and she’s decently fast and agile.

Repulse and Warspite I’d recommend for BBs with range. Repulse is more of a battle cruiser with high speed and weak armor where Warspite is more of your traditional slow lumbering BB. Both play range wise.

Texas is another option and she is pretty cheap iirr you can get her for like 10$? I could be wrong but thought I saw her for that.

My personal Favorite low tier cruiser I go to is Marblehead. She is pretty fun and with her gun layout you can always have 6-8 guns online firing. She has paper armor but at T5 it’s acceptable. Plus in premium store she is like 15$ USD. If you want cheap and something like the two low tier cruisers you mentioned she will probably be the best pick.

As for T9 premiums just save coal to buy one and don’t spend that much $ on one. That said you just returning it’s probably best to stick to low tiers to get back in the swing of things. Nothing worse than buying a T8+ sinking in 5mins and being upset you feel you wasted your money.

Hope this helps.

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Bug_PhotographerOmaha Main•

What does the Marblehead do that the Omaha doesn't do better (not counting "being a Premium ship")?

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Soviet_CarebearCarebear Glare :snoo_disapproval:•

Honestly that is about it. It is more or less a premium Omaha.

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Bug_PhotographerOmaha Main•

With 13.9 km range instead of the 15.2 on the Omaha. That extra flight time for enemy shells make them significantly easier to evade which is a big thing when playing Omaha as you can't rank anything.

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Soviet_CarebearCarebear Glare :snoo_disapproval:•

I understand that. OP asked about premiums and Marblehead is more what they described as they mentioned low tier USA cruisers.

That said range never bothers with me Marblehead. I’m more of getting in positions with cover rather than kite tanking in a floating citadel.

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thatusenameistaken•

Honestly, t8 is the new t9. None of the currently available t9 ships really shine when uptiered into supers, which happens insanely often.

T8s avoid supers, are cheaper, and can also do operations if/when you tire of randoms.

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Palanova•

For crdit farm you need:

premium time

credit eco boost on the ship

if techtree ship, bonus eco pack on it

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You can buy most of the T9 doubloon ships for coal, but need to farm for it a couple of month. So if you have time, just farm coal and get the ships for it.

If not:

T9 BB Pommern - solid german BB able to brawl, has good secondary guns, good armor so pretty much forgiving

T8 CL Mainz - 12 fast firing guns, torps, hydro, good for Operations

T8 CL San Diego - fragile light cruiser with SAP shells, heal, main battery reload booster

T8 CA Atago - stealthy cruiser with good torps, 203mm guns, heal and hydro

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If you try to get a ship for coal:

T10 CA Napoli - solid ship, has SAP secondary guns, has torps, full speed smoke, a brawler cruiser

T10 CA Salem - Des Moines variant, need to choose between hydro or radar, fast firing 203mm guns

T10 DD Marceau - fast gunboat DD, with 4x3 torps, but no smoke

also Pommern is available for coal.

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ihaveasandwitch•

Tier 9 coal ships have good economies, and coal accumulates through regular play if you pick coal containers. Kearsarge can be very powerful and you can fire it's guns over islands and also deal tons of damage without exposing yourself via the rocket planes.

For free xp you can get the Azuma or Agir T9 heavy cruisers, or the Gronningen DD. All 3 will switch to being coal ships soon as well if you don't have the 1 million free xp they cost at the moment. All of them are good picks for either resource.

T10 coal ships don't have as good an economy as the t9s, but you can still make decent money in them. Forrest Sherman (DD), Moskva, and Salem are all good picks and all set lots fires with rapid fire guns so they might fit your play style well. Though keep in mind t9 and t10 gameplay is very different for cruisers than t3 and t4. Battleships are way more accurate and longer ranged and can delete you in an instant.

Recommend you go on YouTube and check out some gameplay and review vids of the ships and see which one looks most interesting to you. Some people really like their Marco Polo or Pommern, so you kinda gotta figure out your tastes. The only coal ships I thought I wasted resources on were the max immelman and the Tromp. Fun for a bit but got bored of them pretty quick.

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Alex470OP•

Interesting! Coal and steel are totally new to me, so I'm not entirely sure how those are earned except for a little at a time from missions. On that note, assuming free ships are the goal, is it generally better to open resource crates or coal crates?

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akagidemon•

Coal is easier to get. Steel is a bitch. I have 2 coal ships. The forest sherman and the napoli. Makes ok credit wise. And I also have the yamagiri. That's a sinkhole for credits

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Charisma_meltdown•

Also, tier 10 "premium ships" are actually do not earn more credit, they are just get handled like elite ship's

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Palanova•

Steel : Never convert it to Coal just to get a coal ship faster.
Stockpile it to get some awesome ships.

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Coal: from the daily three create choose the coal, this way you get every day a minimum 1200 coal. 400 from each if you get all three.

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ServantOfNyrro•

Because of most missions' (most of all the Battle Pass, but also a lot of events, including early access, dockyards, and snowflakes) completion requirements being Tier V+ ships and you mention your enjoyment of St Louis (III) and Phoenix (IV), that will be why you don't have much of those resources.

There is a bit of a quandary insomuch it's really annoying how lower tier gameplay brings so little reward beyond XP/credits.

I'd suggest hard grinding the tech-trees you have now (since you're on the USN cruiser line(s), that's one you can add as well, both lines are pretty strong with Des Moines being the OG strong heavy cruiser which has managed to withstand the power creep). Playing the higher tiers will bring in the necessary coal and steel for freemium ships over time (quicker for steel if you play ranked/clan battles) while also giving you more experience with the ships which may leave you better informed of what premiums you'd enjoy/be good with.

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aerocanthusWhere is Jessica Hyde?•

to farm credits you first need premium time . yea this is the bigun el primero

then the simplest and best credit farmer is to farm operations with a high DPM cruiser

Mainz is probably the most insane of the DPM farmers for ops. high DPM and fantastic torps in 4 racks

set my personal record of 421,000 damage in an epic Narai run. strong games can crack 1 mil+ per ops run

if you have the means , i highly recommend picking one up. (Save Ferris)

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ArmoredFrost•

Mainz in operations, with a commander with TGG skill. 👍

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Charisma_meltdown•

I can crack 1mil+ with Tirpitz, Massa or Alaska in randoms pretty consistent. It takes less time and afford than ops , and u are more likely to run into ppl that don't understand the mission.

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ItsEyeJasper•

Personal picks for Great ships to earn cash at each tier. Note these are ships that work for me because I get the most out of them. The trick is picking a ship you can do well in. That is Survive long enough to get good damage or long enough to ensure a Win. Many recommend the Mainz, while she is a great ship I prefer the Atago for the heal when it comes to playing alone.

  • T6 Dunkirk
  • T7 not Sure
  • T8 Kii, I do have Kobayashi Camo, but it's the fact I get good results with her. As for a Cruiser Atago.
  • T9 Kearsage
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Lt_Bargor•

I suggest you some T8 premiums to avoid superships and have better matchmaking in general.

Battleships: Kii, Roma, Constellation, Borodino, Alabama

Cruisers: Atago, Mainz, Bayard, Prinz Eugen, San Diego

Destroyers: Cossack, Kidd, Orkan, Loyang

Each of these ships are strong and have their own playstyle.

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Alex470OP•

I did end up grabbing the Mainz, although I thought the credit bonus would have been higher than 5%. Maybe I’m spoiled from War Thunder.

Is 5% as high of a bonus as it gets for all premiums?

Either way, the Mainz is definitely more my playstyle. It feels like a fairly effective support ship—decent range, quick firing, fairly agile.

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aPlayerofGames•

All premium ships also have a hidden "base earnings" multiplier. Base credits are determined from in game performance and then multiplied by the base earnings multiplier for the ship. That value is then multiplied by any bonus packages or consumable bonuses you have mounted. What this means in practice is that for any in game action that earns you credits, say destroying a T8 enemy cruiser from full HP, or taking a capture point, you will get more base credits if you were playing Mainz than if you were playing Hipper.

That 5% from the bonus package is on top of the hidden base earnings increase. If you play regular ships of the same tier you can quickly notice that the premiums make more credits for games with similar performance with tech tree ships.

https://wiki.wargaming.net/en/Ship:Base_Earnings#The_Ship_Itself

Fairly agile

She might feel like that if you're comparing to more sluggish low tier cruisers, but Mainz is one of the slowest T8 cruisers in the game, and has quite poor maneuverability.

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Lt_Bargor•

This.

The premium ships have bonus income in addition of their permanent bonuses. They also have reduced service costs which means you keep more credits/profit after each battle compared to the same level tech tree ships.

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YourSATScoreAlways mistaken for the other test score•

Tier 9 is the best tier for credit farming.

All T9s have the same credit earning potential. Kearsarge is the best available ship, but also hard for newer players due to her unique playstyle. Pommern is easy to play and can also train German captains, but is generally considered mediocre. If you have 1 million free exp, Groningen and Azuma are good choices. Groningen is a excellent gunboat DD while Azuma is a very easy to play cruiser with average performance.

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Orgerix•

If you have the FXP, groningen is printing money for me.

Long term, the most affordable is t9 coal ship, but it may take time to accumulate enough coal for it.

However, from what you say it seems you are still in the very low tier. I would suggest to not buy a premium ship on a tier higher of your max researched tech tree ship, as it is setting you up to fail and in the end not enjoy the ship you spend money on.

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Trifle_Old•

Same answer as always. It’s the premium ship you are best at.

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Teamsumo13•

I think all these repetitive threads are astro turfing? No one does a you tube search or google search with reddit in it anymore? WG just wants to keep you talking about premiums.

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Alex470OP•

Perhaps, but not mine. I was digging through YouTube and Google for the better part of 4 hours but wasn’t finding much that seemed catered to my play style (or wallet).

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