Any Future for G30LP's?

Question

I bought one recently and started hearing about the firmware "updates" that continue to degrade the performance and features of what was one of, if not the best value scooter on the market.

The ScooterHacking Utility app reports my BLE at 1.1.7 and DRV 1.8.4 and which apparently means I can't downgrade to reliable firmware like 1.2.6 and the black plastic controller tells me I'm out of luck with STLinking (although one person has said it worked for theirs).

Is there anyone working on cracking through newer firmware versions or are the new G30 owners SOL? I would love to hang onto it but currently it's just not what I paid for and that breaks my heart to see the market going that way.

Posted Feb 4, 2023, 9:46 PM UTC

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snarfer-snarf•

i got a newer one that was bound to the segway app and has the black plastic unflashable controller. i took that garbage out and bought a preflashed with cfw, original ninebot 3 capacitor heavy duty mosfet g30D controller, slapped it in and it’s like a stud horse now always at the most torque, dragging me up hills like a chariot, always pushing hard. you could do that…$120 from mymaxmods is better than buying a new scoot imo

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snarfer-snarf•

revisiting this also the 30lp is much nimbler and the wheelbase is short enough to take it in skate parks with the same souped up speed you can put in a 30p but not constantly grinding the battery cover. idk just a thought

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snarfer-snarf•

one more…grab a 30p battery and boost your distance from 367wh to 551. come on…you know you want to

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KAODEATHOP•

So G30D controllers are compatible with the G30LP? I'm seeing a $60 one for the D and a $200 one for the LP on Aliexpress so that would be pretty helpful.

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snarfer-snarf•

yes same/same for lp vs p

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SurstrommingFish•

I actually was able to down-flash to 1.2.6 but I was never able feel the torque or highend speed of any custom firmware. Ironically, the stock 1.7.2 works quite good, plenty of power and 30kmh top speed.

Any idea what Im doing wrong? Even tried opening a thread, but no luck.

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KAODEATHOP•

I think your best bet would be to comment around the success posts since whoever pulls these stunts off might know what messed it up in the first place. Weird that yours worked and the post got removed.

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Mormegil81MAX G30P•

You can get the old controller on aliexpress for example, and some other places... Just replace it and you're good!

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KAODEATHOP•

If the old style controller is above the locked firmware version then I would still have to attempt an STLink right?

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Mormegil81MAX G30P•

you can get them pre-flashed sometimes. But yes, if the firmware version is higher you will need to st link, but honestly I don't think they sell these controllers with unflashable firmware ...

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KAODEATHOP•

Right on, thank you!

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The firmware updates are probably related to the melting wires fiasco, which would makes sense that it’s hindering performance. There’s plenty on this sub covering the issue and how to upgrade the wiring to prevent it. I unfortunately learned the hard way to late.

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KAODEATHOP•

I'm not technically inclined but I don't see how the battery losing more juice, faster would decrease the temperature of the terminals.

My money is on them bending over for the upside down and backwards german courts in the case of top speed and all too common shanty company coding practices giving us all these bugs every update. Pennies are worthless now but that's my two cents.

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Well I am technically inclined and you’ve been warned. Keep an eye on those wires and upgrade them asap.

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KAODEATHOP•

I absolutely intend to! Seems like something that should have been caught before it even reached the drawing board really. Do you have any recommendations or is the random seller on Aliexpress going to be better than stock?

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Great! What you need is an MR60 connector. You can find them on lots outlets like Amazon. Then just a basic soldering iron.

Yeah it’s a shame because overall the scooter is great. 🤦🏻‍♂️

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