LL Bean Boots - History and Buying Guide, v2.0

Love 'em or hate 'em, we're solidly into Bean Boot season in most of the US. This is an update and extension to a guide I put together last fall, and as always, suggestions, revisions and corrections are welcome!

Since their deep roots in American menswear is part of the reason I love Bean Boots, I wanted to start there (Section I below) I also put together an overview of options and a buying guide (Section II).

But first, an inspiration album.

I realize these aren't everyone's cup of tea, but for me, the attraction is a direct function of their utility. They aren't sleek, and when you wear them, they really stand out. I don't know - maybe you have to have grown up in a place where everyone wore them.


I. History


The origins of the Bean boot are essentially the origins of the company. The Bangor Daily News gives one take on the history here, and here's another from Gizmodo. And from Bean's own company history -

In 1911, an avid outdoorsman named Leon Leonwood Bean returned from a hunting trip with cold, damp feet and a revolutionary idea. L.L. enlisted a local cobbler to stitch leather uppers to workmen's rubber boots, creating a comfortable, functional boot for exploring the Maine woods.

L.L. began his business by working out of the basement of his brother's apparel shop. In 1912, he obtained a mailing list of nonresident Maine hunting license holders and prepared a three-page flyer that boldly proclaimed, "You cannot expect success hunting deer or moose if your feet are not properly dressed. The Maine Hunting Shoe is designed by a hunter who has tramped the Maine woods for the last 18 years. We guarantee them to give perfect satisfaction in every way."

By the 1980s, the boots were iconic enough (with a certain demographic) that Lisa Birnbach made them a centerpiece of the tongue-in-cheek Official Preppy Handbook - see here and here, for example.

In 2009, when LL Bean re-hired Alex Carleton (a former LL Bean designer who had left to found Rogue's Gallery) to design the new Signature line, he started with a Bean boot.

However, I think the more interesting history comes from many people's deep connection to the boots, which look almost identical to the ones their families have been buying for generations). In 2010, Lawrence Schlossman (Sartorially Inclined, and How to Talk to Girls at Parties) started a series of guests posts called The Bean Boot Project. He asked other menswear bloggers to write and post pictures of their experiences with the boots, and lots of them responded. This story (from a now-defunct blog called Wingtip) is my favorite -

My dad has been wearing Bean boots for at least as long as I've been alive. The same pair. Worn-in, broken-down, mud-encrusted. The leather has wrinkled and aged. The heel logo has long since worn off. Even the laces have split dramatically.

If I had to guess, I'd say I've given them more thought than he has. To him, they are just boots. He puts them on when it's wet. He puts them on when it's cold, when it's muddy, or when it snows (conditions which, for anyone not familiar with Buffalo NY, reflect about 8 months of the year!) But they are his boots. The wear and tear reflect his labors. They're the first and only shoes he puts on before he steps outdoors.

Naturally, I've grown to admire the Bean boot. It has been, after all, a consistent component of the man I look up to the most. And while I may not be following my father's academic and professional footsteps, you can bet I'll be wearing the same shoes.

Bean boots have always been sewn in Maine by LL Bean employees - they aren't contracted out to third parties, and construction has never been outsourced to foreign countries. A couple years ago, the guys from All Plaid Out and A Restless Transplant visited the factory in Brunswick, ME (the same factory that makes the LL Bean boat & totes). The post has a bunch of stories and fantastic photos, but here's their introduction -

Walking into L.L. Bean’s factory in Brunswick, Maine feels exactly like it should. It smells of stale solvents; of tannery leathers oiled thick as an outfielder’s glove in mid-September; of raw canvas so heavy and fibrous that filaments cling to the insides of my nostrils. These smells, they fight for air as people flit back and forth in small work stations, moving through tasks with the grace and ease of highly skilled dancers. It looks like a factory should: a collection of task-specific machines designed by the very workers who use them every day, because, unlike the iconic Bean Boots produced here, you can’t find a triple-stitch machine in a catalogue. Each station has been retro-fitted to suit the assigned employee, right down to decorated oscillating fans and CD players blaring “Bleeding Love,” by Leona Lewis into cheap Chinese headphones; “It’s one way to make it through the day,” the stitcher yarns in an accent thick as a lobster roll. It sounds like a factory should sound: plenty of drumming and punching and carwonging, the zip of the skiving machine, the heavy-hammer thunk of the leather press….

LL Bean has also done some video walkthroughs/interviews of the construction process - here's one from their own website, and here's one from a local TV network.


II. Buying Guide


If you're going to order a pair, you have some options for (1) height, (2) lining, (3) material of the upper, (4) color, and (5) closure type (all broken out in more detail below). But if you're buying your first pair, I recommend the classic 8" in tan.

Note that, whichever options you're looking at, the boots are seriously oversized. For the unlined boots, you'll want to buy a full 1-1.5 sizes below your regular shoe size. For example, I wear 12.5 in dress shoes, 13 in running shoes, and an 11 in Bean boots, and they're roomy enough for thick wool socks. This blog post suggests not sizing down quite as far for the lined boots.

For care, I put together a step-by-step waterproofing guide last fall. Bean will also resole your boots with a full new rubber bottom half for about $30, which is how people are managing to pass these down through generations.

While I'm a purist, but Bean isn't the only company making boots with leather uppers stitched to rubber soles. Valet has a rundown of some other options here.

(1) Height

They come in seven different heights, from slip-on rubber mocs to massive 16" tall Maine Hunting Shoes. For most people, the 8" boot is going to work best - it's tall enough to keep out snow and rain, but not so high that it's hard to walk in or tuck pants into. Another versatile choice would be the low gumshoes, which aren't quite slip-on but work well on damp, misty fall/spring days. I wear my gumshoes for yardwork a lot, so they've been out raking leaves quite a bit the last few weeks.

(2) Lining

The standard Bean boots are unlined, but for serious winter wear, you'd want a pair with Gore-Tex and Thinsulate. They've also just started making them with shearling lining, but I haven't read any reviews or tried on a pair personally. For rain and all but the deepest, coldest snow, the standard unlined boots with thick, wool socks are enough.

(3) Upper Material

In the main line of boots, there are some options for leather uppers, although they're generally limited to one height and color. You can get the 10" boots in bison leather, and the 10" Maine Hunting Shoes have pebble-grain leather (and come in lined and unlined versions). Over in the Signature line, there's a waxed canvas version (as opposed to leather) available in four colors. I think these look fantastic, but I'm not sure they'd be as waterproof as the originals. Still, it's not like waxed canvas is porous or anything.

(4) Color

Hands down, if you want the most classic color, get tan. Dark brown is the other main option, and it blends in better with the brown rubber soles, and makes it a little less obvious that you're wearing Bean boots (for good or ill). They just added an even more ninja-esque black leather/black rubber version for the mocs. The Signature line has been a little more inventive with colors, and the waxed canvas version is available in navy, tan, olive and black. There's also a new black leather option Recently, Bean added two boots with red tread instead of the classic gum - in bison and tan leather uppers.

(5) Closure

Laced boots are the standard, but they also make pull-ons and the brand-new Lounger with a strap. There was a blogger-led movement to bring back the Lounger out of retirement, so I'm assuming that's why they feel like they can charge $200 for an unlined boot.


Thanks for reading, and as always, suggestions for revisions, extensions and corrections are always welcome!


Posted Oct 20, 2012, 2:46 PM UTC · edited

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charlonova•

Great article, my wife got a pair for 5 $ at a armée du salut shop and will use the advice. However in your photo album there's a black man wearing LL bean. You may or my not know not that they are boycotting this product since 80 years. I assume it must be photoshop. This should be removed for integrity source

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jdbeeOP•

I hope people are honest enough to look at your source before replying!

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nocookiesforme•

True story: the other day, I was riding the 5 train from East Flatbush, Brooklyn, into Manhattan at about 10:00pm. (For those of you who don't know, East Flatbush is kind of a ghetto. Not a projects-everywhere, bullets flying by ghetto like you'd see on The Wire; more like a completely undevelopped, burned out husks of buildings on every block, you-can-buy-chinese-food-for-a-dollar kind of ghetto.) Anyway, I was wearing my LL Bean Katahdins. A well-dressed black teenager told me that my laces were undone. He then complimented the boots, and asked if they were Red Wings. I told him no, they're actually from LL Bean (which I said with kinda an embarrassed laugh, 'cause I still equate LL Bean with my elementary school backpacks), though they're made by Chippewa.

Now, to be clear, this guy was better dressed than I was, and not in a street-wear kind of way. He was (obviously) familiar with Red Wings; he'd also heard of Chippewa. But he had no idea what LL Bean was.

At the time, I thought I'd met the one person in the world who hadn't heard of LL Bean. Apparently, it's a more prominent phenomenon.

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SisterRayVU•

Most people don't know LL Bean bro

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[deleted]•

I feel like the average person has some familiarity with them, I knew about them before I got interested in clothes, though I've always been somewhat outdoorsy so that may have something to do with it.

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[deleted]•

$1 Chinese food is the best kind of Chinese food.

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MrBlahStrikesAgain•

As long as you don't like China or food.

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jgur88•

I have trouble determining if people actually believe the onion or not...

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ninjamike808•

People do. There's a blog dedicated to fb responses of people outraged and shocked when reading the Onion. Not that fb posts are always legit, but the blog is pretty funny.

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andrewwithnumbers•

that is literally unbelievable. http://literallyunbelievable.org/

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oDDableTW•

My grandfather used to wake up LL Bean at 4:30 AM before heading out on his fishing trips, and Mr Bean would open up the shop and get him tackle and bait and such. I loved hearing these stories.

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theplaidavenger•

Are bean boots your favorite clothing thing ever made?

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jdbeeOP•

Without hesitation, yes.

Edit: Where's DocHopper? I haven't been accused of shilling for some company or another in, like, a week.

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[deleted]•

It'd be hilarious to see something like this hit r/all, I can imagine the comments now, "Dude, why u lik trying to get me to buy frm this company? How do I knw this ll bean is good? You probably like own it or somthin bro, nice try but i ain't falling for it!"

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Zoklar•

"Nice try LLbean salesman" is probably one of my most hated things ever.

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AmIKrumpingNow•

Nice try salesman for LLbean's competitor.

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[deleted]•

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ffualo•

There's no 8" in dark brown? Noooo!!

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romanomnom•

Agreed. This is my exact problem - having to decide b/w a 10" dark brown or 8" tan. The dark brown to me definitely goes better with most outfits.

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samlander•

this is what i want to know

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brian_g•

DocHopper's sole job is to troll various forums, including MFA and NYC, to accuse people of random things. He's really big into calling out an NYPD officer on r/NYC about being basically the scum of the earth solely for being a cop. Don't take him too seriously.

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jdbeeOP•

He's basically an inside joke on mfa at this point.

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jgur88•

Same.

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jgur88•

I have the 10" waxed canvas boot and let me say this: Awesome fucking purchase. I bought them a few years ago when the line came out and I wear them year-round. I wear them in the winter when Philly is usually slush but also when I hit Vermont skiing. Anytime the weather is shitty out outside of winter, I have them either on me or literally on the front seat floor of my car. I honestly go very few places without them. Yard work, mountain bike races, hiking, you name it. They are waterproof for sure, and when the canvas loses its wax, refinish them. I just bought a bar of Otter Wax and redid them yesterday. They look brand fucking new again. Of everything I own, I get the most compliments on those. One of the best purchases I've ever made!

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madlordsnapcase•

How often have you had to rewax?

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jgur88•

I've had them for two or three years, and this is the first time. I went heavy on it and may need to rub some off.

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madlordsnapcase•

Thanks!

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havestronaut•

Whoa. I've just been making plans for a snow ready boot for winter here in Philly (I'm new!) Your endorsement has me leaning even closer to buying a pair of these.

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jgur88•

Very nice! Lets stomp bitches with them. I live in Roxborough. I also got them in the moss brown I think they are called.

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havestronaut•

Let the stomping commence. I'm in Center City West.

Probably gonna go for 8" leather ones... I think. Wish they came in brown leather, but tan is still sweet.

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jgur88•

If you have a bike, hit up Breakaway at 19th and Chestnut then. Tell them you know Jay from the Internet; I worked there for years.

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jgur88•

And check out AIDS Thrift at 5th and Bainbridge. Awesome shop.

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havestronaut•

Hell yeah.

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checkyourhead•

I wish that the 6" and 8" were still available in dark brown.

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coprhgen•

Got the 8'' waxed canvas hunting in forest green last week, I love dis boot. It needs to rain.

By the way I'm a size 10.. A size 9 [bean boot] fits me perfectly snug with regular thin socks, tight in thick wool socks (in a way that will be very uncomfortable after 1-3 hours of wear).

Size 10 [bean boot] is a tad roomy but a lot more breathable with thick wool socks and a perfect fit with doubled-up winter cotton socks.

Apparently you want some room in the boot for for air circulation as it's a layer of insulation between the weather, rubber boot, and your foot.

So sizing down is a matter of functionality versus snug fit.

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jdbeeOP•

That's really odd - I wonder if you have wide feet or high arches that might explain it. LL Bean's own advice is to go down a full size if your feet are a full size and 1.5 sizes if you measure a half size, and that's exactly my experience. I'm a 12.5D on a Brannock Device, and I have plenty of room in size 11 boots to wear thick socks. I can wiggle my toes and they don't feel constrictive.

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Zoklar•

I got an 8 from a 9-9.5, and it fits snug but not tight with woolen socks, and slightly roomy with thin dress/casual socks.

I feel for coprhgen though, I finally bought some last year, and there was barely any snow whatsoever.

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makanimike•

I followed the official recommendation. I was in between sizes so I went down 1.5. It fits but would have rather bought true to size (I.e.half a size down)

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coprhgen•

It gives me that rule of thumb that was on the LL bean card. Something along the lines of you should have the width of your thumb between your toes and the edge of the boot.

I also need to say sizing down is not as bad as I initially said to be. They are fine with thick, wool socks what I was describing was wearing doubled up cotton socks.

I think I may have to order the size 9 again like I'd originally planned, when I called customer service they mentioned the thumb indexing and how all that extra space is meant to be an insulate between your foot and the boot.

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softprac•

Would the gumshoes be appropriate for walking through the snow/slush in NYC? Love the look of that and the signature boots.

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jdbeeOP•

You won't be able to tuck your pants into them, obviously, but if you're just talking about wet, slushy sidewalks, they should be just fine.

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OhBeAFineGirlKissMe•

How about it in new hampshire? I'm not particularly a fan of tucking my pants into boots, and more of a low-cut kind of guy, but i have a feeling it's going to snow A LOT this winter. would the gumshoes or the 6" boots suffice?

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thisisyourfather•

if it's going to snow, go with the 6" boots.

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OhBeAFineGirlKissMe•

Thanks!

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Gabriel_Conroy•

If your in New Hampshire I'm surprised you don't already own a pair. I just assumed they came with the house in New Hampshire, Vermont, and Maine.

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OhBeAFineGirlKissMe•

haha, originally from west coast, here for college.

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ramen__noodles•

I'm a lady but I have the bean boots and wear them in the snow/disgusting slush in NYC every year and they're awesome.

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SisterRayVU•

I just can't help but feel these look weird in cities. In ME and NE towns or coastal cities, sure, but in metro areas? Idk man..

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PlatosApprentice•

Simply put, some people find them stylish. I live in the Mountains in Georgia and don't exactly need the boot, but it's versatile for the week-long monsoons we get. I don't have to worry about ruining my other shoes.

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POWEREDBYKETONES•

Already have a pair of Kathadins!
Must. Resist. Temptation.
^i ^could ^use ^it ^though ^up ^here ^in ^Canada.

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[deleted]•

Really fascinating article, jdbee. I've never been too keen on the looks of the Bean Boot, but after reading through their history and looking over some great inspiration pictures I've definitely come to appreciate them more. I'd have to say I still prefer the dark brown to the tan though.

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hnice•

great write up, only one small point to add --

the red tread actually pre-dates the yellow. the tan pair you link to is the 100th anniversary pair, which was built to reflect several archived versions of the originals.

i know beans pretty well, but did not know this until work began to bring them back for the 100th. it was sort of a big deal locally, if you can believe that, when the red soles were released, which is as much an indication of maine's comfort with change as anything else.

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jdbeeOP•

You're right - I meant "new" as in "recently available on the site", not "recently innovated".

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hnice•

sorry, hope i didn't sound all correcty mccorrection on you.

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I_can_engineer_that•

A fellow Mainer...in MFA? I thought I was the only one.

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removablefriend•

Thank you for this!

Does the lining affect size at all? For example, does a Thinsulate pair feel noticeably tighter than a normal pair of the same size?

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jdbeeOP•

This blog post suggests not sizing down as far for the lined boots, and I think I'm going to add the warning to the main post.

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GrilledCheeseJesus•

I can second this. I own the regular 8" bean boots in a size 9, and they are roomy, but fit well. So I bought the 10" bean boot with the shearling lining in a 9, and they fit much more snuggly. I can't go up to a 10, because I would be swimming in it, however, there is definitely a difference. This basically follows common sense, as the size of the outside of the boot is the same, but the shearling one has more stuff on the inside, thereby decreasing volume.

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jgur88•

The customer support number is really helpful on sizing advice too.

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[deleted]•

and the live chat, too, if you don't want to speak to people on the phone. I talked to a guy who owned both the LL Bean Katahdins and the bean boots, so he was able to give me his own perspective on what size would be best.

I also asked him if I should get the thinsulate version for snow, and he said the unlined one with good socks would be perfect. I was surprised he didn't try to upsell me, which is pretty cool.

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cameronrgr•

great post

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cymuohio•

You forgot to mention they have a life time warranty. I got my first pair freshman year of college and got a tear in them my senior year. Sent them back in and they shipped me out a brand new pair.

Oh and your advice on sizing down is true.

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completewildcard•

Just want to add an FYI: If you want the insulated boot (which I highly recommend) go with thinsulate, and NOT shearling. Shearling is MUCH less effective at providing warmth when wet, and it takes forever to dry out. Given that those of us in NE use this boot for snow/rain gear, you're way better off with the thinsulate.

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arson51•

I strongly disagree. I shearling especially on boots and coats while heavier will feel better on you and keep you warmeer when wet than a thin layer of polyester like thinsulate will.

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[deleted]•

As someone who just recently moved to central PA - do I need the lined boots? I'm used to no snow at all.

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arson51•

I am not, familiar with the winter averages in PA, I have snowshoe'd in the Rockies, and in New England, and shearling boots have worked great down to -15*F for me. Good luck, and don't forget to check out the Appalachians.

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[deleted]•

Thanks, that's good to know. I guess I'll have to just try them out and see how things go.

Also; Does the lining ever develop any sort of smell after some use?

I will also definitely check out the Appalachians, it's on my to-do list. Sadly with how busy life is I'm not sure when that will be.

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lobstertainment•

Cuffs (of course)

No socks

And are people still complaining about showing a little ankle like it is a new phenomenom?

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Innerpiece•

BTW if you guys like the Gumshoe and have larger feet (12-13) they are on sale

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jdbeeOP•

Just to clarify, those sizes (13 and 14) would actually fit guys with size 14 and 15 feet.

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Innerpiece•

You never know what kind of monster could be lurking around these subs...

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mason55•

Are the Goretex really warmer? Wouldn't they just be more waterproof?

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jdbeeOP•

Goretex is a waterproofer, Thinsulate is the insulation.

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mason55•

Oops, I thought they were available with just Gore-Tex (no Thinsulate). If the Gore-Tex only comes with Thinsualte as well then that makes sense as to why you'd say they're warmer.

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jdbeeOP•

Right - you can get them unlined, with just Thinsulate, or with Thinsulate and Goretex.

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chaim-the-eez•

Wait, has anyone discussed the difference between the Maine Hunting Shoe and the Bean Boot. DIFFERENT ANIMALS!

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jdbeeOP•

Bean puts them under the same tab on the site, so I'd say it makes more sense to think of the MHS as a subset of Bean boots.

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havestronaut•

What's the advantage of the steel shank?

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US_Hiker•

Walking through the woods/hiking, w/ lots of tree parts and rocks will be far more comfortable w/ a steel shank.

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anotherwhitekid•

Their 90th anniversary boot statue is actually the 10" version.

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jdbeeOP•

Ack - you're right. I've been telling people the wrong thing for years!

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