I've finished the MSQ, what next?

[Question]

Started playing summer last year, became totally addicted, and here I am 500 hours later finally having beaten Endwalker this morning. I loved the last expansion so much.

My question is: what next? I can't wait for the latest Hildibrand content, I want to wait a bit before doing "hard" combat content (I've beaten a few Ultimate trials but that's pushing me), but otherwise would love to hear what side content people like the most.

I've never used party finder or joined an FC, and maybe I should figure these out.

Posted Mar 19, 2023, 1:10 PM UTC

1449
Shophaune•

...wait you want to wait before doing "hard" combat, but you've beaten a few Ultimates?! And you've never used party finder?!

35
Arkeband:gnb:•

lol yeah this doesn’t add up. Maybe he means extreme trials.

23
SentimentalBearOP•

Er Extreme sorry, yes

15
Shophaune•

Extremes without PF is still eyebrow-raising

6
SentimentalBearOP•

Most of them from ARR at least you can just queue, then ask someone experienced to explain how to do it for the ones you can't work out. I stopped doing most side content once I got into the story. Are you saying I should be using PF for all raid type stuff? Maybe something to find a mentor to explain to me - when I looked at other people's PF groups it was hard to understand what they were, lots of terminology/acronyms in them.

2†
johnstrelok•

Anything that says extreme, savage, or coil are done through party finder, because there are no main roulettes that feed them, which leads to very long queue times. This is because the only people you'll get are others who queued for that exact duty, or mentors in mentor roulette.

Alliance raids (24-man), normal raids, and non-extreme trials are all fed by specific roulettes and can be queued for without issue.

11
MemeTroubadour:brd:•

Mentors tend to complain about getting Extremes in their exclusive Mentor Roulette, because teaching people takes time. This is why people get pissy when they hear about others using DF for them.

I am of the opinion that it's the whole bloody point and if that bothers them, they can shove it and hand in their Burger King crown since they're not going to mentor anybody. Therefore, I would say that you are totally allowed to use DF. Regardless of morals, though, it's still kind of unpractical for the use case, so PF is still encouraged.

1
HastyTouch•

Sprouts regularly queue into old ARR extremes and they fill via mentor roulette (it’s why you hear mentors complain about the roulette do much. Being stuck wiping with no progress for an hour in Ramuh ex with tanks that don’t know what to do and won’t listen is not fun).

Issue is that there is or at least was a quest in Mor Dhona requiring the completion of three ex trials. And sprouts would just pick it up and queue to complete it.

1
BiddyKing•

Nah I think they mean the ‘hard’ versions of the ARR trials

1
MatteoPignoli:nin:•

If you haven't done them, the Ivalice raids, and then the Bozjan Southern Front You can also get a Shadowbringers relic weapon of you want while you're at it, but you don't need to

11
zeroslots•

Get Omni-90. Deep Dungeons. Old Relic farms. Eureka/Bozja. Hunt Trains. Shared Fate grinding in ShB and EW areas. The list goes on.

9
SentimentalBearOP•

What's grinding fates for? Gemstone stuff?

3
zeroslots•

Yes. There's a mount associated with the EW fates too

3
train153:nin::sam::rdm:•

Specific world fate bosses are associated with mounts, not all the fates in general.

Ixion's fate in Stormblood, Formidable's fate in Shadowbringers and Chi in Endwalker all have mounts you can get with doing their fates a couple times.

3
zeroslots•

My statement stands. There is a gemstone grind with EW fates that gets you a mount. It's a massive time sink that, I believe, takes several days of farming to do. https://ffxiv.gamerescape.com/wiki/Wivre\_(Mount)

2

Id get in on an FC espically one that does treasure maps those can be fun and good money.

Hunts board for unique glams and mounts. Golden saucer for glams and mounts.

Then you have the expert deliveries in each expansion for crafts and gatherers.

Craft and gatherers can be beneficial if you can get them up, they are tedious tho. Start with the ixal beast tribe. That way you can do it a little more passively.

Which brings me to beast tribes. Theyre good side content and open vendors of sometimes rare materials that can be sold on market boards. Or unlocking unique glamours and mounts. (My first was pixie). You get 12 charges of beast tribe a day you can use 3 for 3 different ones. Its your choice.

Finally and this is the kicker for everyone... Have you finished those job quests? XD

7
SentimentalBearOP•

Thanks. I have done my job quests yes. 😀 I've made decent progress on crafters/gatherers, they're all between 70-80 ish except fishing.

I've unlocked all the Gold Saucer stuff but haven't played anything there. To get the unlocks which stuff do you have to do?

1

The mini cactbot board should be part of your daily routine. Also jumbo cactpot once a week, and fashion report gets 60k+ mgp if you follow a weekly guide for it

3

Just enjoy and play around. The events will be posted as announcements.

The glamours, minions, and mounts are exchanged for MGP from the prize claims.

2
IscahRambles•

Have you done the trial, raid and alliance raid storylines from each expansion, and the various optional dungeons? Some of them are quite MSQ-relevant, especially the eight-man raids.

4
DrakeWurrum:rhalgr:Stormborn•

Now you play the true endgame.... Glamour farm.

4
normalmighty:nin:•

First goal I went with that I recommend is to work your way through any and every blue quest you see. That means all raids and optional dungeon, getting into omnicrafting and working through levelling other classes, working through tribal quests a couple of trives at a time, the list goes on and on.

PF is also a great way to spend a chill session, helping other people go through content for the first time and jumping into an unsynced glam farm from time to time. I also recommend joining and FC if you haven't by this point, to get your social fix from the game.

3
SentimentalBearOP•

How do you best find an FC?

1
normalmighty:nin:•

I'd recommend looking around the community finder for you world https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodestone/community_finder/ or filtering posts on r/FFXIVRECRUITMENT/ to FCs on your world.

Personally I've had great luck in the past with the community finder, since it gives you pretty much all the info you might immediately want to see to get a loose feel for an FC.

2
SentimentalBearOP•

CF looks great, thank you

1
Nibel2:blm: :blu: :pld:•

*Breathe in*

  • First thing first, walk through all the maps and clear all blue quests you see. Yes, even the new jobs. Get them on your list.
  • At level 90, it's possible to solo the entirely of Binding Coils of Bahamut. Do it unsynched for the story. The other storyline content >!(Alexander, Shadow of Mhach, Warring Triad, Omega, Ivalice, Four Lords, Eden, NieR, Sorrow of Werlyt, Myths of the Realm, Pandemonium)!< can be done as usual in the Duty Finder.
    • You will also unlock the Savage and Extreme difficulty of these fights as you progress through them. If you want to run them, form a party. They are not Duty Finder content, at least on NA.
  • Gold Saucer is an eternal source of "stuff to do". Check it out just in case. You might have unlocked it during your leveling process, but take some time there when you have nothing to do, and you might find something you like.
  • Gathering logs. Walk through the maps and collect one of everything for the checkmark. This will allow your retainers to bring those stuff for you when you need it.
  • Crafting logs. Craft one of everything for no reason other than getting the checkmark on them. You only need to check stuff on the first crafting tab. The other two never get a checkmark.
  • Fishing log. Chasing Big Fishes is a game on its own, and can be done between your other activities. "I have some time to kill, which fish window is open?" is something I asked myself multiple times while progressing through it. When you get down to a few fish left, that's when the madness set in.
  • Blue Mage is very fun, have a solo mode that earns you a lot of alliance seals every week (lots of free teleports, more than you can spend).
  • Deep Dungeons (Palace of the Dead, Heavens-on-High, and Eureka Orthos) are always a good challenge too. Either as a team, or solo. Some hefty loot and a special title if you get to the end.
  • Hunt Trains and S-rank hunts. Get a lot of nuts and seals and tomestones, and if you do it enough, can give you up to three exclusive mounts.
  • Level up your personal chocobo to level 20. They can level up to 10 naturally, then to 20 by feeding them a Thavnairian Onion per level. Hefty money investment, but worthy it. A max level chocobo deal a lot of damage in world content.
  • Omni-90 every job. This will keep you busy for a while, and maybe you may even find a job that you didn't expected to feel good playing, and end up being a new alt job.
  • Lots of minor collectibles across the game. Mounts, minions, orchestrion rolls, triple triad cards, Grand Company ranks, PvP ranks (each GC have their own PvP rank), Tribal reputation, Bozja notes, Variant Dungeon endings, etc.
  • Have you crafted weapon relics? There are many across all expansions. Having a full relic set is a mark of pride for some players.

Last, but not least, try to have fun. Don't play the game because you feel like you have to play the game. If any advice you read here end up not being fun, don't do it. I myself do not want to ever touch a Savage fight at level, and still have a lot of stuff that I want to do every day. Others just get bored after beating the new raid tier and take a break and come back when a new patch is announced.

You define what you want your endgame to be. Not a random list from the internet, or the game forcing you to do stuff because they want you to be logged in for as long as possible.

3
SentimentalBearOP•

Thank you, great summary, knowing all the options is the first step to finding out which I like!

I've tinkered with some of these as I went along but not all, so let me give everything a try.

2
AceSoldia:drg:•

Find a good FC that'd doing the content you want to do. You got raids. Treasure stuff..crafting/gathering hunt trains..want to raise and race a chocobo? Go do some golden saucer

2
Nice-Part-4375•

Started last autumn and starting endwalker after 543 hours....did some more side things it seems 🤣😅 Too much to do. F it

2
brandon_m_le•

Finish sight seeing log… minion and mount collecting…crafting and gathering…glamour farming…achievements completion…clearing all the side quests in Eorzea…

2
GaijinB•

Also finished the MSQ recently. I set myself gear goals and worked towards that so I could start doing savage raids.

I also levelled and geared my crafters so I can (hopefully) craft my own gear next patch.

The hardest thing has been farming glam though, those Nier healer boots just refuse to drop.

2
SentimentalBearOP•

Are we expecting high end crafted gear next patch?

1
GaijinB•

There's going to be a new crafted gear set for fighting jobs, along with the new raid tier in 6.4.

1
illusteeh:gnb::dnc::hq:•

move to the true endgame: glamours!

1
drasonSpike•

Level other classes(each crafter/gatherer have their own quests and side content,).
side quests (gold marker), cool side quests (blue marker), Relics, island, blu mage, collecting green checkmarks (doing other trials/dungeons/raids stuff in the duty finder).
Just to list a few.

1
xfm0:lnc:•

buy furniture using bicolor gemstones you get from doing shb/ew fates and sell them on the marketboard for your income.

pls add to the supply ahaha

1
BiddyKing•

Do anything that has story attached. Which turns out, is a shit ton. Do the optional trial series for each expansion (3 x trials per expansion interweaved with a narrative), the normal raids (12 x 8-man normal raids per expansion, interweaved with a narrative), the alliance raids (3 x 24-man raids per expansion, interweaved with a narrative).

Also. The role quests that start from Shadowbringers are fantastic story-wise. It means you’ll need to have one of each role levelled up (that’s 5 jobs, only 4 for ShB but EW added in melee dps as one of the roles), but each has a cool story and after you do them all you get an accumulative questline that is really cool too.

Honestly everything I’ve listed is great story, and provides great flavour and context to the main story, even fleshing out some aspects that are only skimmed over on the MSQ.

Also worth doing the beast tribes and custom deliveries. Some cool rewards but also cool stories too. And if you do each beast tribe for an expansion you get access to an alliance tribe questline where they all come together.

And finally Eureka and Bozja. Bozja especially has a fantastic narrative penned by FFTactics’ Matsuno. But each are like their own games tbh with their own raids and own unique gameplay instances.

1
SentimentalBearOP•

Thank you! I was trying to get all the Custom Deliveries unlocked yesterday, and was startled to find that you needed to do unlabelled side quests to unlock some of them, rather than being shown as blue "plus" quests. These had pretty good stories too, I liked the Stormblood one about the two princesses.

1
KGhaleon•

Go work on your Island sanctuary, or do the newest Raids, or do the new Deep dungeon.

1