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nutt_shell

Opinions on used versus new

Hey all,

Have a lane on a used PC with the following specs for $1250 CAD.

  • AORUS Master RTX 3080
  • Intel i5 11600k 6 core 12 thread
  • ASUS TUF GAMING Z590-PLUS ATX 2x8 DDR4 3200Mhz
  • Corsair Vengeance Deepcool Gammax400V2 CPU cooler
  • Fractal Design Focus G
  • 512GB Kingston SSD 750W
  • MSI-A750GF Full Modular 80 plus gold Power Supply

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I feel like it is a reasonable deal. However, I also feel like I might be missing out if I do not go with a newest gen CPU (eying the 13600k and DDR5). Any thoughts on if I should bite on this or just go new and wait for a GPU deal?

Posted Mar 21, 2023, 11:41 AM UTC

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cortseam•

This is an insane deal....

If you wanted to build the next tier up new you'd have to spend like $2k+

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nutt_shellOP•

That’s what I’m feeling

Getting some FOMO on the new CPUs. Is that irrational?

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Kevo05s•

Depends on what you do.

Purely gaming? Yes irrational.

Professional work that uses 100% of the CPU that provides income? No.

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nutt_shellOP•

This us the exact direct answer I needed

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Kevo05s•

If you're still getting fomo after the purchase, at the price you paid, you wouldn't be losing much by selling your CPU/RAM/motherboard and then buying a new combo.

It still not needed in most case scenario, but you could

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cortseam•

Newer CPUs will make a difference to your experience, no doubt.

The difference is nowhere close to a 75-100% uplift lol.

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nutt_shellOP•

That’s the feeling everyone is giving me.

I agreed to the deal and working on a pickup date.

If there was more I could salvage from my existing build; I might have leaned new CPU. From what everyone’s saying this will be very adequate.

13600k, MOBO, Ram and Power Supply was like $1100 alone. I needed a new case and cooler as well.

I feel like there’s a lot of value for me here. 3080 is obviously nice as well. Especially coming from a 980

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cortseam•

You'll love it I'm sure.

I went from a ryzen 1600 to a 11700k+3080. Huge huge difference in my ability to actually play games I wanted at good frame rates.

Still there are games where I see my CPU is lagging and that's where you'd get the fomo for newest gen...but end of the day you gotta appreciate a good deal.

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alvarkresh•

Since you're getting a K-CPU you can always overclock it if the cooling system is up to snuff.

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alvarkresh•

It seems very reasonable indeed. May as well snag it, considering 3080s alone basically aren't being sold new anymore and still sell for eye-watering prices on the used market.

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nutt_shellOP•

My local used market has these around $800 for the 3080. However there’s a few so I’m assuming real price is 650-750

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alvarkresh•

Yeah, $800 is ouchie, heh.

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Fortune4245900X/3090/64GB/4K120/OLED•

Yeah $700 is spot on. I sold my 3080 for that last week.

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techtimee•

16GB memory is horrific. BUT. Memory is cheap right now and DDR4 is cheaper than 4, so you can very easily go 64Gb or even 128Gb with no issue.

I'll tell you a secret, I switch between a 4670k and 2500k, paired with a GTX 970 as I'm not heavy gaming anymore. I can run most things on medium fine and some on high even(mostly older games or smaller titles). So I'll say this much: I've built 3 systems with 3090's, 12900K, 13600k, 13900k and while things were nice, I literally felt no difference for general use. The only thing noticeable was plopping in a 3090 into my system for testing and being able to run pretty much any game at ultra.

You will have a 11600K and a 3080. Those should last you a very long time, especially for $1250 CAD. You can always upgrade your GPU down the line to a 5090 or whatever and stretch performance out even longer, especially if you're going to play at higher resolutions, the GPU does most of the work anyway. So unless you're playing at 1080P and below, or you need insane number crunching for work or something(By the way, I work in data science and again, use a 4670k and 2500k system(s) with little issue) you'll be fine and have more money in your pocket as well.

Having said all that, I like to stretch things out and run them until they're no longer enough for my needs or non functional. So if I were to build today, I'd likely go for DDR5 and go nuts with specs. But again, "What are you going to do with it?" Are you always strapped to your PC? Are you doing intense work? Simulation? Or do you watch movies and youtube, play some games here and there and use it more like a multimedia machine?

We're constantly bombarded with newer parts and "Look at these numbers!", but the truth of the matter is that things are always improving and just because something is "old" in computer time, does not mean it isn't still highly effective or you'll have a poor experience.

Just dump 64/128Gb of memory in the thing and enjoy the ride for $1250. Bigger numbers are nice, more money in your bank account while getting a terrific system is even better.

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PewPewSoft•

16GB? The HORROR of it all!

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techtimee•

lmao. I was stuck at 8GB for a long time, so I see memory, I go all out these days, especially for my line of work. Besides, it's cheap enough and you don't have to worry about upgrading for a long time if you're a "ride it till it can't ride anymore" type like me :P

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nutt_shellOP•

I have a 4690 and GTX980 currently that has treated me well. Diablo 2 Resurrected is the first time the thing was absolutely screaming at me and I noticed some poor performance.

D4 is on the way and I don’t want a poor experience. I know my specs should hit 1080p medium but I’d like to scratch 1440p high at 60 frames if I can.

Mainly would like to use it for games and have a Series X that I can lean on as well. I just don’t want to be forced into controller for everything and play the MnK support guessing game. As of the beta I MnK wasn’t working on series X

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Fortune4245900X/3090/64GB/4K120/OLED•

I'm sure the used system you describe will do 1440p/high no problem.

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techtimee•

That's understandable, and I'll probably upgrade to a 4090 before building a new pc. This system you're talking should give you a great experience with D4. I'll be playing it as well, but 1080p, lol

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Farren246•

The 13600K has those E-cores, so if you need high multithreading this would be the only reason to spend more for it.

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nutt_shellOP•

Might crunch the odd spreadsheet but 99.9% of the usage outside of watching some streaming content and browsing 20 tabs at once will be some games.

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Farren246•

No reason to spend more than your $1200 then.

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nutt_shellOP•

Yeah for sure I can do everything listed on my current rig that is really outdated and it hates me playing anything remotely modern.

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Daniel_H21212600K + 3070 Ti + 32 GB 3200 CL16•

What games? What resolutions?

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nutt_shellOP•

TBD. Most my gaming is on Series X

Ideally 1440p 60frames (monitor is 165) better than medium settings.

D4 (really low demand) - this will be my main game for a while.

Kerbal 2 (which is asinine right now)

Maybe play some Warzone but KBM works fine in the Series X

Maybe some AOE4

Cities 2 when it comes out

Probably get Risk of Rain 2 as the Xbox version lacks MNK.

With a decent PC I could branch out.

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Daniel_H21212600K + 3070 Ti + 32 GB 3200 CL16•

This deal is very good. You would be missing out on newer CPUs but you would also be missing out on paying $800-1000 more. I'd take this deal over a new build, assuming this PC is in good condition.

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nutt_shellOP•

Looks clean etc from the pictures. Offered 1300 instead of 1250 as I didn’t want to push it.

I do have to drive a bit to get it but can lump in some work in the area at the same time.

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gifred•

Yeah it's a good deal OP

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