Source
r/Gloomhaven•
fifguy85

How to talk about Frosthaven Potions w/o Spoilers

Frosthaven

The questions is: What is a good way to give a hint about a potion that you'll talk about inside a spoiler-tagged comment, post, etc?

Because the Potions unlock in a random order based on herbs looted, there's no ordered way to talk about them (like items in GH were with Prosperity unlocks).

Obviously item number works, but very few people have those memorized. More likely to be remembered would be listing the herbs needed for the potion, but again, this is easily forgotten unless there's a very strong thematic tie in on a potion.

Does anyone have any cleverer ways of indicating what potion is behind a spoiler tag that are effective for the bulk of the community?

Posted Apr 2, 2023, 2:31 PM UTC

422
TiltedLibra:FH_15_Coral:•

I do it like this.

Item 999 >!Fancy Ass Potion!< >!which makes your character fancy as hell!<

That has all spoilers tagged, but it also lets people see just the potion name if they aren't sure from the number alone, without spoiling what it does.

33
stephencorby:FH_5_Boneshaper:•

I’m a big fan of this technique in addition to this potion 😂

11
Astrosareinnocent:FH_5_Boneshaper:•

Dang, what herbs do you need to make that? I really want one, but haven’t unlocked it.

3
SilverTwilightLook•

If I understand the spoiler policy properly, the only option is item #s, and that's not an easy way. Not just for when I'm deciding "should I click this spoiler", but now if I want to talk about it, I have to go look it up. And generally, I just don't end up talking about it, which sucks.

I think another frustrating part is there are at least a couple extremely basic potions, that I'm sure almost everyone could guess exists. I haven't unlocked all the 2-herb potions yet, and I have not yet seen a potion that heals. My group is guessing that one exists behind one of the doors we haven't opened. If I were to see a "spoiler" that confirmed the existence of a potion that heals - an extremely common item in dungeon crawling, which also existed in GH - I will not consider the fun or experience of alchemy "spoiled".

6
dwarfSA:FH_3_Bannerspear:•

Conceptually, I agree. But that gets really complicated when it comes to what should be clear spoiler rules.

The alchemy board means all potions are locked items. All locked items are considered spoilers.

3
fifguy85OP:07_Sun:•

And generally, I just don't end up talking about it, which sucks.

Yeah, this is why I was hoping to find a better solution.

I understand item number is the safe way forward, but as you note that's not trivial in all contexts I want to engage with the community.

3
chrisboote:04_Scoundrel:•

I would say Item 1234 [potion spoiler] >!Potion of big numbers!< >!lets you count high!<

2
etschwed:FH_12_snowflake:•

I feel like item number memorization is not easier or harder in FH compared to GH. Might be over thinking this. If you click a spoiler tag you risk being spoiled.

For instance, if I'm reading a post about a Drill Class guide and someone talks about using a potion, that doesn't spoil much for me. Knowing that potion exists is cool but I still have no idea how to unlock it. I personally would click on that tag and would not feel like it spoiled anything.

Now if you say Brew these herbs and it makes this, that makes sense.

3
Interesting_Effect64:FH_5_Boneshaper:•

I think NEW potions should be spoiler tagged. But standard healing, stamina and power potions are fine. (tbh, I don't even know any potions yet)

3
dwarfSA:FH_3_Bannerspear:•

Nope. Frosthaven potions are all considered spoilers due to the alchemy board.

5
Interesting_Effect64:FH_5_Boneshaper:•

Oops, my bad. I didn't see your comment

2
Dbruser•

Is stam pot ok since the name/effect was publicly spoiled prior to Frosthaven release? Only the crafting recipe wasn't shown.

1
dwarfSA:FH_3_Bannerspear:•

Nope. Kickstarter updates weren't read by everyone, and we'd rather not carve out exceptions for individual potions.

1
Dbruser•

Fair, I just saw a TTS mod that had all of the publicly spoiled items (starting items plus like 10 others) among other things.

1
[deleted]•

[deleted]

1
Silyen90:13_Music_Note:•

Find a community with less strict spoiler policies.

3
dwarfSAMOD:FH_3_Bannerspear:•

Item number is the preferred way to do it.

Use the item number in the title of your post. Calling it out as 2 vs 3 herb is okay, too. A person looking at the thread title may not know what the item is offhand, but if they click it, that's kind of on them at that point.

1
Emeriel:20_Demolisionist:•

I think it will be within spoiler rules to name them by ingredients (i.g. the rockroot arrowvine potion) as well, might be easier to remember than number for some people.

2
fifguy85OP:07_Sun:•

Yeah, and that works, but if it's the only solution, it leads to many times not posting or clicking a spoiler (i.e. less community engagement), since I know I don't have all item numbers memorized.

Thus, the ask. Hoping someone was cleverer than I and could think of a better way to do so. 😁

1
dwarfSA:FH_3_Bannerspear:•

Yeah, near as I can tell "potion recipe" is just as much a thing I'd need to look at the item card for as item number is.

2
MHprimus:14_Angry_Face:•

Here’s the problem with not unlocked item numbers…

There’s items that can be crafted that require you to have another item and it gives the number on the card under the materials required section. My group has an item that we want to craft that requires a potion to be brewed but we don’t know which one or what the mats are for it. We determined it’s a potion based on item numbers and now we are attempting to brew new potions trying to find it.

If we knew the item number and the spoilers included the mats needed, it’s a potential spoiler. There’s no correct answer so the community uses item numbers bc if we don’t use any default… there’s no discussion… and therefore no community.

1
mazor_maz:FH_10_trap:•

But what’s the problem. Your party has to brew remaining potions and proper one will be revealed sooner or later.

2
deano2099•

It'd be sooner in this case, as they'd know which one to brew.

The party has to unlock pretty much everything in the game sooner or later but that's still all considered spoilers!

1