Are the Profitec Go secret PID functions documented anywhere?
Posted Apr 17, 2023, 2:09 PM UTC
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I got to the secret menu by holding the - & + buttons while the machine was turning on, I think. I looked on Profitec's website for more info, but no luck. Most of these functions aren't mentioned in the user manual...
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Commenting to track this post. I would also like to know, my GO is in the mail on the way here.
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go here and under the downloads section you can find the user manual that explains everything
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I just got mine a few days ago. The manual very clearly explains these
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In the manual on my machine (pro 800, probably same PID), also nowhere are these settings mentioned. Never saw these functions also! Will try and report back.
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go here and under the downloads section you can find the user manual that explains everything
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As I've mentioned, I've read the user manual and it doesn't explain it. I'm happy to learn I've just overlooked something though, so please point me to the page where it mentions the bot function, for example.
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pages 27-30 you'll find everything you need...happy brewing
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It's very obviously not there.
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Everything a person should be messing with is in those pages. The stuff you probably shouldn't, is in the Clive Link someone posted below. Thanks for the link, I have the paper copy, but it was good to get the download. Didn't realize I could set a cleaning prompt. How annoying. I usually ignore until I feel like I can't anymore...
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There is nothing in there you need as an end user, but a ton you can mess up. Just leave it alone
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Exactly, they program it specifically for the nature of the device. There is no benefit to jacking with it.
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Depends. this menu let’s you setup a few goodies. Eco mode sets up a power saving timer. There’s also a shot counter that’ll remind you to use cafiza after x number of shots.
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Shot timer, cleaning reminder and eco option are enabled from the factory. So again, don't touch the parameters in there
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Actually, the cleaning reminder isn't enable by default (at least on the profitec 700). Also, some people (like me) already compensate for eco mode using smart outlets that can cut the power. It's sorta redundant to also use the eco timer in this situation...
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This thread is about the secret functions/menu. The functions you are talking about are part of the normal menu
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Eco Mode option, shot timer, and cleaning have been enabled stock for the regular Menu on all Profitec and ecm machines for a long time.
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It’s documented somewhere since it’s the same PID across other Profitec machines. I can’t recall where, but don’t limit the search to the Go and you’ll find it. However, all of the logical advice I’ve seen says to keep it locked in as Clive or whoever your retailer is will set it correctly.
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The Profitec Pro 300 has different menus, as shown on this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkYQAHl1ZC4
The video also doesn't go into any detail about what any of the other menus actually do, but it makes sense that the PID options are different, since the machines have different features.
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So, based on this video and other documents online:
F.01: Celsius or Fahrenheit
FIL: force refill of the boiler
boS, bot: ??? (maybe it controls what the display shows during normal operation)
CP, CI, Cd, Cb: PID parameters for brewing Coffee
SP, SI, Sd, Sb: PID parameters for Steaming
t1: brew temperature
St: probably steam temperature
E1: temperature offset for brewing
E2: temperature offset for steaming
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I’m going to try that in my ECM Synchronika to see if I can find the f.02 heat both boilers at the same time settings.
I’m assuming you held the +&- then turned it on?
Thanks so much for posting this!
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You won't find that setting in Australia, btw. Illegal here.
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What is this magic
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they’re in the manual whole section on pid. eco is a timer till it goes power saving mode. If I remember without the manual in front of me.
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Seems to be PID functions. This controls the way the heating is handled (steady temperature, ensuring it doesn't drop, ensuring quick heating with minimal overshoot, etc)
read more about it here:
Controller: PID controller - Wikipedia
How it works for temperature What is a PID Temperature Controller? | West CS (west-cs.com)
I know this just from the 3d printing field. I assume the function parameters mean something similar here. ( PID Tuning - Marlin Firmware – 3DMaker Engineering )
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It’s not really a secret menu just a documented function in the owners manual. Someone linked it here and it’s probably a good idea to read the manual for anything that comes with a manual, but that’s just me.
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Check out ECM manuals, they are the same machines with different design. eg. : https://manuals.plus/ecm/81084-classika-pid-coffee-machine-manual#63_pid-display_function
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I'm pretty sure there is info on most of this in the user manual. I'm also pretty sure I read it and thought: yeah I don't need that
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Apparently it is called the "advanced PID menu", couldn't find exactly what each menu item is supposed to do, but some have definitely to do with temperature offset etc.
Link for more info: Clive coffee support