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AugmentedRed

What should I ask for my trade?

So tomorrow is the day I finalize the numbers for trading in my FK8 and signing the purchase order for the new ITS. Key points are .....

-Sonic Gray Pearl -2019 Type R -22,447 miles -I am the second owner.

I have never money shifted. The ecu has not been jail broke ever and the only thing modified on the outside has been the exhaust which I replaced with an AWE Track exhaust with the black diamondsI plan on swapping the exhaust back to stock before trading it on in. The car is flawless on the outside. No paint issues. The interior is just the same. There are No scratches inside anywhere. The two plastic trim pieces next to the shifter were replaced with two pieces that are alcantara with red stitching so the center dash and center console flow as one piece. No stains on the seats and or for carpeting. I have the stock wheels on with half of their life left. All books are there in the glove box and I have performed regular maintenance through the dealership and have both keys. And last but no least, I have tinted windows.

I am trading for the Integra Type S that I was lucky to reserve with 199 other people. I am so flipping excited but feeling sad that it has to be traded, but it will be for a liquid carbon metallic so I have no place to complain. As a 39 year old, I have had my fair share of spirited runs and what not but never in an abusive manner. I have never had 2nd gear grind. I never dumped the clutch or it has never been smoked or eaten in. Never had a single issue with the car. I live in Portland Oregon.

What do you all think would be a fair number for when the dealer asks me what number I want from them? Other than the exhaust which I will put back on, the car has remained fully stock and adult driven. I bought it for 38k, I owe 32 and some change, have put 3k miles on it and would like to get 38k or more on the trade. What's a good number to ask for realisticly??? Thanks in Advance.

Posted Jun 7, 2023, 8:32 AM UTC

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cphpc•

Wait sorry? Did you say you were on a reserve list with 199 people? I live in a city similar size to Portland and they said they were only getting 1 ITS this summer. What does that mean? How long are you waiting for?

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AugmentedRedOP•

I sign the purchase order tomorrow (today actually June 8th) and pick my accessories that I want and should have the car within a couple weeks... End of June at the latest. The first batch of 200 will be in the hands of everyone who won a spot from Acuras website before they officially go on sale to the public and the very end of June / early July. So if you didn't get one of those 200, you have to wait for the next batch to be made. I was on the Acura website on May 11 and successfully got one of the first 200 allotted to U.S. dealers. There will also not be any ADM on it so I'm getting it for MSRP plus the cost of the carbon mirror caps and the carbon spoiler.

I was told by my dealer, most of the Acura dealership wont get any. Some will get just 1 ITS and some will get between 3-4 a year until 2027!! There will be far less made than FK8 and the FL5.

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cphpc•

Nice! Right on. I heard about that Acura website thing from the local dealer. Good for you! Local dealer said most likely they will mark up $20K but the people who got on the initial 200 list should get msrp.

Thanks for that explanation. Anyway, i think realistically somewhere arnd what u got it for sounds about right?

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AugmentedRedOP•

Actually the fine print on the website said the final price, even the first 200 will be set by the dealer. There are a good amount of dealers tacking on ADM on the first 200 because wellll..... Dealerships. But there are also plenty of ones that will NOT add on to the price. I think those dealerships are not doing it so they can trade the ADM for good word of mouth relationships with the customer who will tell so and so, who will tell their so and so. Catching flies with honey and not vinegar. It's unfortunate because Acura said originally this was a high production volume car. They went back on that. And then they said no ADM for the 200 cars, and naturally they went back on that. But yeah, just had to locate a dealer with no ADM and pick that dealership when checking out and placing your deposit on the website. A 53k ITS is better than a 60k+ type r any damn day of the week. That's what the R's are still going for in my area and others. Just nuts.

Edit - Also... I've checked and most, if not all dealerships who are not putting any ADM on the first batch have said they WILL put an ADM on all ITS' after the first 200 are gone. So expect to see 60k 70k 80k ones for at least the rest of the year.

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AugmentedRedOP•

Also... I've checked and most, if not all dealerships who are not putting any ADM on the first batch have said they WILL put an ADM on all ITS' after the first 200 are gone. So expect to see 60k 70k 80k ones for at least the rest of the year.

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NoahJarbeaux•

Even if it’s good condition my guess is the dealer will low ball 1.5-2K for their “service fee” so they can put it back out on the lot. You may get what you bought it for but who knows

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dinastyman3•

The issue I see is that the dealer now has you by the balls per say as you have committed to buying the ITS from them. It’s not like you have leverage to walk away like a normal deal in order to haggle on total price. Options are take what they offer or sell private. Looks like 40-42k is what dealers are asking so getting 38k may be on the higher end of what they would offer. I say go for it and see what you can get done! Keep us posted!

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AugmentedRedOP•

It went way better than I thought. So to start, I picked this dealership because they put it in writing a week before the May 11th that they would not tack on any ADM if they were chosen for the sale. Once I secured one of the spots, I would consistently check to make sure they intended to follow through. I did add on the carbon spoiler on the trunk. Opted out of the mirror caps. As long as I was getting the car at MSRP and the amount I owed paid off, I was going to walk away happy.

Fun part.... I think they intend to sell my FK8 for a redonk amount because they have me 40 for it. Freaking 40! I looked at the guy like I don't know what's in your water but I'll take 40. For comparison, car max offered me 36. I got the car for what they said it would be. Msrp plus destination. 51995. Add on the spoiler and the total is 52795. I ended up with 8k in my pocket with the trade so I kept 3 and applied the 5 and got 47795 and I finished it off with the 2k deposit already put down at the start for a whooping 45795 with 8% interest for one of the first 200 ITS. I was speechless and really couldn't be any happier.

I'm going to be sad to see the Type-R go but I'm sure I'll get over it LoL I just hope other people have a good buying experience as well. Those ADMs are nasty. I should have it sometime next week.

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savvy_withoutwax•

Wondering what your monthly will be on this?

I'm kind of thinking about trading or selling my R for the ITS. Huge maybe.

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AugmentedRedOP•

I went with a 72 month (6 year ) period. I got it for 680ish a month and some change. Right around the same I've been doing for the Type R. I don't plan on keeping it for life. I just don't keep cars like that. Usually trade or sell after 2-3 years max. Not too bad in my opinion.

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AugmentedRedOP•

Worse case scenario, I give up the ITS and take my deposit back, grab my R and go buy a TLX type s from a different Acura. I even told them, heres what I want and if I don't get it I walk. Simple as that. I started with 40 thinking to they would drop to 38. We settled on all the numbers before I signed the purchase order . No shady stuff at all. Didn't even try to up sale me on oil changes.

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dinastyman3•

Amazing outcome! Glad things worked out well and there are still some honest dealers willing to work with people rather than make the process miserable…regarding the rate, is that what a 60 month is really going for right now with decent credit?? I’m on a short list for an msrp FL5 and paying 8% would blow. It’s looking like late 2024 or early 2025 so at least there is some time for things to settle.

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AugmentedRedOP•

I'm really baffled by the 8%. For the last 3 cars that I've owned, they all stayed at 4.0% from my credit union. When she said 8, I'm like no no you're supposed to use my bank and she said that was. I called while sitting there and the person on the phone said that's what they were giving out on car loans. I have a 730 score too

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dinastyman3•

Yeah this rate environment is horrible. I’m closing on a house in a few weeks and mortgage rates make me cry compared to what people got 2 years ago. Literally thousands upon thousands a year extra in interest to the banks profit…and of course the auto loans have followed. I’m ready for 3% new car loans again. Hopefully it’s back down for the next car purchase. Send pics of the new car when you get it!

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