###[](/CLE) Cleveland Browns (3-8) vs. [](/OAK) Oakland Raiders (3-8)

4:25 PM Eastern  
3:25 PM Central  
2:25 PM Mountain  
1:25 PM Pacific  
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**Location:**  
[](/OAK) [O.co Coliseum](http://www.raiders.com/tickets/a-z-fan-guide.html), Oakland, CA
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**Weather at kickoff:**

[49/61°F / Heavy Rain &amp; Fog / 14mph winds](http://nflweather.com/game/2012/week-13/browns-at-raiders) 
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**TV:** 

 *Watch:* CBS  

*Local* [](/OAK): [KPIX 5](http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/category/sports/)

*Local* [](/CLE): [WOIO 19](http://cleveland.cbslocal.com/category/sports/)
 
 *Stream:* [Firstrow](http://www.firstrowsports.eu/sport/american-football.html) and [MyP2P](http://myp2p.eu/)
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**[Inactives](http://i.imgur.com/SDaEh.png)**

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**[Odds](http://pregame.com/sports/stories/b/news/archive/2012/12/02/nfl-sunday-cleveland-browns-at-oakland-raiders_3a00_-start-time_2c00_-odds_2c00_-free-pick-1606474.aspx)**

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**Headlines:**

* [Game preview via Yahoo](http://sports.yahoo.com/news/browns-raiders-preview-023328835--nfl.html)

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Game Thread: Cleveland Browns (3-8) at Oakland Raiders (3-8)