AI Non-lethal primary

Discussion

They better with pepperball or shotgun?

Just trying full-arrest runs.

Posted Jul 12, 2023, 3:53 PM UTC

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Sheyvan•

Right now? I would say Shotgun, although if you have enough mates, having one with pepper adding constant additional suppression is great.

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Lukanian7•

Pepperballs/OC can daze you as the officer, shotgun is kinetic so I find that to be less annoying. Also if you beanbag a perp in the head they get KO'd, so you can zip 'em up before they gain consciousness

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DogePerformanceOP•

Yeah I have everyone in gas masks for non lethal just because I actually prefer the pepperball gun

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StavrosZhekhov•

They changed it at some point to kill the targets if you do a beanshot headshot. Did they change it back? I'd use the bean shotgun more if that is the case.

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TheRedCometCometh•

yeah i'm fucking lethal with it

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StavrosZhekhov•

Just LaBelle'ing tf out of suspects.

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StavrosZhekhov•

Absolutely don't give them the flash bang grenade launcher.

Ignoring the fact that it doesn't reload, the AI will treat the weapon like any other weapon and rapid fire headshots. A canister to the head is kills the target unfortunately. Same with beanshotguns. I would stick with pepper guns for AI tbh.

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ElijahTheFox•

The only map where this is viable and appropriate is the Voll Health House.

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StavrosZhekhov•

Well, idc if I kill everyone there tbh.

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ElijahTheFox•

Yes, and the best way to do so is with the flashbang launcher

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SuperSix-Eight•

The AI team? Honestly... neither because right now they aren't able to handle it properly. For the Pepperball they aren't rapid-firing it enough to get the optimal effect on a suspect (i.e. rapid 3-5 rounds then yell) and for the Beanbag its fire rate isn't enough for the team to suppress the enemy once misses/friendly fire is factored in. Also they'll pull really dumb moves like yelling at suspects through glass (which less-lethal can't penetrate) only to get themselves gunned down.

But if you have to pick one go for the Beanbag Shotgun. The AI doesn't spam the Pepperball properly. For S ranking purposes I normally get the AI team to incapacitate suspects with AP rounds from either the 5.56 or .300 Blackout rifles or the MP7/P90. There's always the risk of restarting because the AI landed a head/neck shot or they hit the thigh/upper arm and caused a bleed, but it's much less frustrating than watching the AI try to use less-lethal.

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MMMMO_O•

It's really funny actually, the pepperball gun can shoot through wooden doors and some wood walls. Makes no sense at all.

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Goblin_CEO_Of_Poop•

I prefer the pepperball gun but I have the squad alternate. One pepper and one bean per team. Pepperball gun can just dump ammo in tight spots so its very useful.

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