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WRad

With Scotty now back in the fold, how do we get the right playmakers all on the pitch?

I had a few discussions in the MOTM thread about this, and I am curious what other are thinking...

Now that our beloved Scott Parker is available again, how does AVB make room for him in the midfield? Dembele and Sandro have shown to be a rockstar pairing in the center midfield, and Lennon/Bale have the wings locked up. Spurs are doing well sitting in 4th place, but do we dare leave last season's POTY and game-controlling captain on the bench?

Some have suggested going 4-3-3, with Bale/Defoe/Lennon up top, backed up by Sandro/Dembele/Parker (or would that be a 4-2-3-1?), but I would argue that I personally would definitely want Adebayor on the pitch next to Defoe.

Does Sandro need to eventually make room for Parker, or do we ride Sandro's form and wait for Parker's opportunities to present themselves?

Posted Dec 17, 2012, 4:48 PM UTC

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ElDingusSandro•

I think we can trust in Sandro as of now. He has played really well so far, and there is no reason he shouldn't be starting. Parker just came back from a long-term injury and doesn't have the fitness to be a guaranteed starter. Do the same thing as what Lloris went through. Let him play the Europa, and if he appears to be performing better than Sandro, eventually slot him into the starting position when the time is correct. Personally, I think that Sandro should be the starter from here on out, and would feel great if we could bring Parker on the last 30 minutes to seal up a win, with the occasional start if Sandro becomes fatigued or starts to accumulate too many yellow cards.

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WRadOP•

Do the same thing as what Lloris went through

That I can agree with, he still needs to get in match shape. I just have such a hard time keeping him on the bench for too long given that he was our BEST player last year and basically ran the show. On the other hand, Dembele is doing a great job as well, albeit very quietly.

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ElDingusSandro•

I don't think Dembele does it quietly though. When Dembele isn't playing, we look like a front 3, a couple of midfielders, and a back line and GK. When Dembele is playing, we just flow as a unit much better.

What I think is most interesting is that I can't disagree with what wahahay said, Parker and Sandro could both easily start, but it just isn't right for our system. Both have the ability to be a great DM for us, but only one can play. In the end, if either becomes injured or has some sort of issue with their form, the other could step in. Also, Sandro is only 23 (or 24 depending on if his birthday was recent), and playing under Parker could only help him grow as a player, and similarly when Parker does leave us, we will still have an excellent player in that position.

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cacafogo•

AVB doesn't make room for Parker. He should be competing and rotating with Sandro, plain and simple. If we need to play really defensively or hold on to a lead late, a 4-2-3-1 with both in at DM can work, but its not something we should be fielding every game.

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Rotation, rotation, rotation. Depending on the state of the squad and the quality of teams we're up against, we should be rotating our central midfielders, so as to avoid them being burned out by the end of the season (like last year, where Modric and Parker played almost every minute of every game and it was painfully apparent towards the end). Sandro's been in incredible form, it wouldn't be fair to him to drop him just because Parker is fit now, I think they'll be sharing duties, particularly since I think Sandro is due for a break soon. This is by far the most he's ever been playing for us.

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WRadOP•

Hopefully the Europa schedule continues on for Spurs for a while! More chances to get these guys on the pitch.

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redditnaut•

I think we should play Carroll more often ...

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sickgrof•

Personally, I think Parker needs some time to get back into game flow and form and everything else, and I think rotation will be key, but to answer your question specifically...

If AVB wants to play all three in the midfield at once (maybe on the road against a top team playing for a draw or something like that), this is what I would imagine it should and would look like

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[deleted]•

I wouldn't be suprised if this lineup presented itself one day, pretty solid indeed.

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sickgrof•

gives me a boner (accentuate the me)

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ElDingusSandro•

Don't forget that by that time (maybe), we should have Kaboul back, so we can have a nice little rotation of Kaboul, Jan and Caulker (and hopefully Dawson too).

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sickgrof•

that would be amazing, but I keep hearing about setbacks with Kaboul...don't know if there's any truth to them though

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wahahay•

Personally I would prefer parker. He has that determination and decision making that gives us security. Does anyone remember how good modric was last season? Part of that was due to parker giving him the freedom, the same would work with dembele. Of course I wouldn't say straight away though, maybe play sandro next game then give parker the nod, but parker wasn't pots over modric vdv bale kaboul etc when we finished 4th for nothing.

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zedfox•

Parker's playing with the U21's in a fairly important game against Villa tonight. No Assou-Ekotto though :(

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atlwantsmls•

I send Livermore or Carroll off on a loan. They need Premiership minutes, but we have the luxury of being too deep for them.

Can you imagine the options AVB has?

Defensive game?

Okay..we'll line up with Sandro, Parker, Dembele as our middle 3.

Home and want to attack? Hello there, Parker, Dembele, Dempsey (or Sigurdsson).

Hell the rotation options we have at Defense (BAE or Verts on the left? Verts, Caulker, Dawson, Kaboul, or Gallas in the middle? ), midfield (Parker, Sandro, Dembele, Sigurdsson, Lennon, Bale, Dempsey, Carrol, Livermore, Townsend...wtf?) and even at Forward (Defoe, Adebayor, and Bale, Dempsey and Lennon can be considered here as well).

We can play 4-4-2, 4-3-3, 4-2-3-1, anything we want.

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hardincl2•

It's going to be nice having Parker to sub in late in the game instead of Huddlestone

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totspur1982•

I'm for a 4-5-1. Kaboul will eventually slot next to Jan. Benny on the left with Walker on the right. Sandra can slot next to parker as center holding mids with bale and lennon out wide and dembele as the CAM. Ade and Defoe can trade off for the striker spot. Dempsey, Sigi and Dawson from the bench and i would like to see livermore get more time. Unlike some Im still on the fence as to whether we really need another midfielder but i would like to see another established option for striker. I hear talk about Llorente and I'd like to see that but someone who is a mixture of defoe's pace and technical ability and ade's strength would be nice. Expensive.....but nice. Sorry if i missed something. Im American and i don't get to keep up as much as i would like. I rely on fox sports,espn, this subreddit and spurs tv online. Around here if its not Man city or United you just get lost....

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WRadOP•

This does sound pretty reasonable. I seem to remember we had good success running only one up top and VDV as CAM, so maybe we could do that with Ade/Dembele.

Sandra can slot next to parker

Is Ole 'Arry giving you advice again? Didn't know his wife was available. Maybe she can nod in some headers like he was saying she could :)

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moose_tracks•

I think Parker will be a great late game sub/wrecking ball.

We need a late game destroyer to seal the deal and hopefully he will provide that.

Personally I hope for the 4-3-3 to be in full effect soon.

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chitownfan1•

Thinking about it a bit I don't know how a 4-1-4-1 would feel to you guys. But have the best back four. And then Scotty or Sandro as the one D-Mid. Then put Bale, Dempsey, Dembele, Lennon with Defoe up top. While it does leave either Scotty or Sandro out, it would give us a little more attack minded set by moving Dembele up the pitch. It would also give some versatility to drop into a 4-2-3-1 if something happened to any of the 4 Mid's as Dembele could stay up top and Scotty/Sandro could come one to fill the other D-Mid spot.

Edit: wow I failed at writing out the lineup, but you guys get the jist of it from above.

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myrtletheturtle•

I wouldn't necessarily classify Parker as a "playmaker". Don't get me wrong, I love the man, but last season he'd win the ball and then dish it to Modric or VDV.

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