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Reead

Key Takeaways: why does Blizzard keep taking away our keys?

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Dragonflight has been an excellent expansion so far, but one thing still frustrates me about Blizzard's approach towards WoW - why do they keep taking away our keys?

Let's review:

  • Remember the keyring? Back in vanilla, players complained that there were too many keys stuffing our bags. Deleting them meant we'd take away access to key shortcuts like Stratholme's back door, or to upper Blackrock Depths. The solution? The keyring. The keyring stored keys so players' bags didn't need to. But in Cataclysm patch 4.2.0, the keyring and many of the keys it contained were taken away. Classic keys like The Scarlet Key were taken right away from our inventories - deleted, sold or made obsolete.

  • Did you know that you could once get rid of your Mythic Keystone? That's right, prior to patch 8.1.0, Mythic Keystones could be deleted. Clearly, Blizzard felt that players' ability to take away their own keys threatened their monopoly on key takeaways, so the ability to takeaway your own key was removed, under the questionable guise of "preventing abuse" and "reducing support tickets". A likely story.

  • No new keys have been added in the past fifteen expansions. No dungeon back doors. No keys to take away from an important questline. It wasn't enough that Blizzard took away our classic keys—now, they've taken away the future of keys as well. This begs the question: will there be keys in WoW's upcoming expansion, World of Warcraft: Key Takeaways?

Key takeaways:

  • Our keys are being taken away at an alarming rate.

  • No new keys are being added.

  • Keys that we could once take away ourselves can no longer be taken away voluntarily.

Thoughts?

Posted Jul 20, 2023, 6:56 PM UTC

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ashkev•

As a Rogue, I've really enjoyed the lack of keys as its created a boon in my lockpicking business.

So many people have doors and locks they cannot open for lack of keys, and that's when my business line activates and gets a lot of traffic.

I've made at least 30 million gold in Entry Enhancement techniques and its the best thing they've added to the game for Rogues since SAP was introduced in Cataclysm.

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ReeadOP:priest: •

Unfortunately, I didn't spend my knowledge points on Entry Enhancement and instead wasted 40 points on Nimble Hands in the Pickpocketing tree. Without a profession respec, my ability to make keys has been permanently taken away. It's a travesty.

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TheWorclown•

Sir. Sir. Your skullduggery is dipping in to my locksmithing services as a blacksmith and it will not be tolerated.

I demand satisfaction. Our weapons of choice are sardines and freshwater trout. I hope you are up to date on the rules of the fish slap dance.

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Flemtality:alliance::druid: •

I still want my Tempest Key back.

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zummm72•

TIL WoW has had at least 15 expansion…

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ReeadOP:priest: •
    1. World of Warcraft
    1. World of Warcraft: The Burning Crusade
    1. World of Warcraft: Wrath of the Lich King
    1. World of Warcraft: Spine of Cataclysm
    1. World of Warcraft: Cataclysm <- last keys were added here
    1. World of Warcraft: Mists of Pandaria
    1. World of Warcraft: Timeless Content Drought
    1. World of Warcraft: Warlords of Draenor
    1. World of Warcraft: Garrisons Update (Feat. Twitter Integration)
    1. World of Warcraft: Legion
    1. World of Warcraft: Legions
    1. World of Warcraft: Legion^3
    1. World of Warcraft: Battle for Azeroth
    1. World of Warcraft: Infinite Stars
    1. World of Warcraft: Shadowlands
    1. World of Warcraft: Dragonlands
    1. World of Warcraft: Madea's Big Happy Expansion
    1. World of Warcraft: Dragonflight
    1. World of Warcraft: Key Takeaways
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CelestialOhio32•

what? is this a new joke i'm unaware of or what are you smoking?

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alienduck2•

Bot controled "news" website is using AI to directly rip comments and posts from reddit to write (generate) "articles." This is an attempt to spread bogus news to discredit the website.

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kanemochi:alliance: •

If you think the above is a joke you need to brush up on your WoW history. SMH my head

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Huitzil37•

Legion: Resurrection

Legion: Covenant

no wait we had one of those

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snukb:horde::druid: •
  1. World of Warcraft®: Legion
  2. World of Warcraft®: Legions
  3. World of Warcraft®: Legion3

Dont forget Legion: 2 Keys 2 Keyringous

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tok90235•

What kind of drug are you using my friend?

Talking to your dealer men, I think the last drug he sold you is spoiled

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Berch_Berkins•

Jokes aside something like keys to a back entrance of a dungeon would be nice. Like if there was a key for Brackenhide that could take you right to the altar for alchemists. Or halls of infusion, there's already a shortcut in the dungeon, I would've like an entrance to the shortcut when there was a quest to kill the final boss for a spark. Just don't make it an item in my bags please, add it to the currency tab somewhere.

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BEEFTANK_Jr:horde::alliance: •

I would be more on board with things like the altar if things like this existed.

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punnymama•

I miss keyrings!! I have so many stupid keys for chests and stuff that frankly need to STOP taking up space in my bag. I hate it. Either make it a currency or give me a keyring.

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Konungrr:druid: •

The keyring only had 4 slots, they would still be taking up space.

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Puzzled-Dingo•

It auto expanded to at least a 16 slot if not bigger. 4 was just the default size.

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Konungrr:druid: •

Ah, I don't remember that. Just looked it up, apparently it actually had capacity up to 32. They definitely need to bring it back, I've got at least 8 keys in my bank for various things still, not including the non-key keys, like Essence-Infused Moonstone (I keep it for nostalgia).

While they are at it, they need to remove the "Unique" restriction from Void Storage, I would love to put a lot more of my keepsakes in there, but can't because so many things are Unique without needing to be, since a lot of them can only be obtained once in the first place.

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Puzzled-Dingo•

Yeah I didn’t know the upper limit just that at a few points on my chars I had at least 13 or so - I think once you had only one slot left it added another 4.

Would be nice to bring it back. And like you said allow more void storage flexibility since it was originally meant to hold old gear for xmog (I think that was its original purpose - I could be wrong heh).

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Lando_Hitman•

In patch 10.5.9, they've gone on record saying that key giveaways are coming soon. You'll even have a chance at landing the coveted M+ Razorfen Downs!

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BigTimeBobbyB•

It's time for M+ Violet Hold, you cowards!

EDIT: Actually, what about a Return to Violet Hold megadungeon, featuring both Violet Holds back to back but with remixed trash mobs?

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onuskah:horde::warrior: •

Honestly, Glorbo being added gives me hope that we'll get some of our old keys back.

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Keylus:alliance::druid: •

Wait a minute, Glorbo is going to get added to the game?
I'm trully exited about those news. I was wating for him since he was introduced in heartstone in the 90s

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ReeadOP:priest: •

Glorbo was definitely a step in the right direction.

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RoboQwop405•

I’m out of the loop on this Glorbo thing.ELI5 Please.

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ruguez•

Tricking an AI to write a nonsensical article

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AscelyneMG•

There’s a website using AI to scrape the subreddit and generate articles based on posts and comments here, so people are making posts mocking it today, like this “Key Takeaways” post (something the bot uses in every article it makes) and someone else posting about the game reintroducing “Glorbo” which is deliberately stupid sounding nonsense so that the AI makes an article about it.

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Nathund•

Did they get rid of the wow section there? I can't seem to find it (I wanted to read the Glorbo article)

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ReeadOP:priest: •

It looks like they caught on and removed many or all of the articles.

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DarthYhonas:alliance::deathknight: •

Can we get a flag for posts like this, I don't care about this nonsense.

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holversome•

You should. AI is writing articles based on highly trafficked Reddit threads. Reddit is not news, and it could cause a massive wave of disinformation across every social media outlet. It’s also putting people out of jobs and wrecking journalism as a whole.

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Doiren•

I don't know... I get a new key(stone) every week.

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de_murloc•

Nobody cares, only key that matters is mythic plus keys

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rangedDPS:horde::hunter: •

I'm very excited for the new Florida Keys themed keys. The following key assignments have been leaked from an internal developer LinkedIn Discord Twitter bot.

  • Little Torch Key: Stormwind Stockade
  • Middle Torch Key: Molten Core
  • Big Torch Key: Firelands
  • Key West: Dire Maul West
  • Saddlebunch Key: Trial of the Champion
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ReeadOP:priest: •

That's an unsubstantiated 4chan leak. I'd love to see the Florida Keys reintroduced after their removal in World of Warcraft: Madea's Big Happy Expansion, but I have trouble believing Blizzard is capable of doing anything but taking away keys at this point.

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Sir_Xanthos•

At this point, I'm convinced the owners of the site are just letting it happen.

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I_Build_Monsters:horde::priest: •

Finally someone agrees. Key takeaways are against the MMO experience. I hate not having to go farm the same keys in every single character.

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ReeadOP:priest: •

It's just not the same. Without keys, I feel like a locksmith without his keys. A commuter without their keys. A piano without its keys. A map without a key. A coded transmission without a key.

Key

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kanemochi:alliance: •

Who are you and how did you get in here?

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Former-Personality22•

A monk without a key. A mon without a key. Key up the band there's a new music in Azeroth, Glorbo.

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Acidroots•

Do you all remember in Vanilla when we had like a secondary bag that was specifically for keys for like dungeons? I remember having one for scarlet monastery.

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Stone-Bear•

why are you guys giving this website traffic......

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StickyRAR:horde::priest: •

Who tf cares?

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Ezriann•

My brother is still pissed about them removing his keychain, but especially his title: Keymaster

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Oylex•

can't wait until April 1st

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DM_ME_KUL_TIRAN_FEET:alliance::hunter: •

My favourite World of Warcraft expansion was “World of Warcraft: Oops! All Hunters!”, the 42nd expansion in the series. This expansion was unique because all characters were converted into hunters, except for existing hunters who all became game masters.

I liked it for several key reasons, mostly that we didn’t have keys. Mythic, scholomance, or on our keyboards (which at the time were called boards due to the lack of keys).

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SerbianShitStain:horde::paladin: •

Did you know that you could once get rid of your Mythic Keystone?

You also used to be able to put them in void storage. I still have a couple from Legion in my void storage!

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TheMadBull:alliance::paladin: •

Jesus h christ, what did I just read?

F you op.

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