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Hyper armor on halberds 1.10

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I’m a little worried about the hyper armor changes from the new patch. Specifically on the halberds. IMO they definitely don’t need it. They were already very strong and I’m worried this change is unhealthy for the game. What do you guys think? Hyper armor on halberds reasonable or overtuned?

Posted Jul 29, 2023, 10:08 AM UTC

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SignalDevelopment649Beastman Invader•

Parry.

Thats what always was the go-to against the running poke and other attacks.

Also, they had HA (even if piss-poor) in DS3, so I don't mind them having it now.

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ottosan66Claymore is Baemore•

But isn’t the point that they can hyperarmor aggression? Parry won’t help there.

EG if someone is running ripple sleep grease, aggressing them will be difficult because they can trade and get status buildup to offset losing a trade?

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AnonymousMurphyBuildcraft Enthusiast 🤓•

Rust_Bucket (no clue if he has a reddit u/) just put out a super timely video on parrying that’s been saving my ass post-patch:

https://youtu.be/5_60JOMXqtc?si=McSHXaU5C9twGhAH

Finally taught me that reaction parrying is generally a bad idea, but those RR1s are pretty easy to predict even on bad latency.

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You are a gentleman and a scholar sir. 🙏 Thank you for the link. I have been trying more parries lately but I am very inconsistent.

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sans698•

You only get it on the two-handed version so I wouldn't worry about it too much.

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Mrpenguin47Poison Zweihander•

The hyper armor on halberds is pretty light, so unless they're wearing poise-y armor it won't do a ton against anything bigger than a straight sword, even after the patch. Not to mention you only get it two-handed, which means anyone running offstoc won't get it

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ottosan66Claymore is Baemore•

My first thought when I saw halberd hyperarmor was ripple sleep - feel like it will be tough to aggress someone using it

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Boluses are your best friend vs status conditions. I have the essential ones on my pouch at all times

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ottosan66Claymore is Baemore•

Lol - I’m well aware of boluses. I swap full armor and rings whenever I fight status.

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Based on how well you played in that clip you have absolutely nothing to worry about from the ripple halberd. Seriously really well played

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KindaMiffedRajangBuild Scientist•

Hyper armor on slap halberds is a little scarier than on poke halberds, since slap halberds have r1 > knife > R1 as a combo. Used to be harder to get that first R1 as a starter, will be easier to get it off trades. Otherwise, I think it’s fine, because 2H halberd was never as bad as halberd + offhand weapon.

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Eh, no 1 it’s only on the 2h moveset, and 2, other than the banished knight halberd, most halberds are slow as balls, having a 20 frame startup. Thr scary hyper armor weapons are cgs, especially with an offstoc. That’s literally priority forever

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