E cancel Rammus Powerball; Learn this simple trick!
Posted Sep 20, 2023, 1:36 PM UTC
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You posted it! So funny story, I had a game where I faced Rammus top a couple days ago and thank to your original thread I decided to give vaulting his powerball a go...and I was able to vault his powerball too!
My prevailing theory right now is that it's movement speed related
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Yeah, sorry for the delay!
When in the game did you manage to cancel it?
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No worries at all. It was definitely early game, pre-boots. After I cancelled that one powerball, he didn’t try to power ball me for the rest of the game! So if nothing else I think it had a pretty strong psychological effect on him lol!
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It's probably just spaghetti but it reminds me of Mario 64 sub frames.
Like maybe it only checks for contact twice per frame so it's possible to slip in between if you're exceedingly lucky.
Certified ritopls moment for that guy though.
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It actually was a rito pls moment for me in that game cause it made me think I could do that. It gave me an easy laning phase cause he backed off, but later in the game I kept playing like I could do it even after I'd failed it a few times cause I thought I'd fucked up my attempts somehow, not that the successful one was the mistake.
Gave away 3 deaths at bad times midgame and then the enemy Caitlin was also ahead and building some disgusting crithality build where her ult could one shot me from literally 2/3rds health, so ended up never being able to do anything on the map for the rest of the game.
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Daaamn that is so tragic hahaha
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OP and I were discussing the same theory in another thread, but tying it to hitboxes. I don’t know enough to know which is more likely, or if it can even be a combination of both, but now I’m more interested in finding out lol
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Upon closer inspection, it looks like he cancelled the Powerball like 1 frame before vault hit. It played the slow backflip animation that rammus does when he ends the roll.
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I think animation plays regardless of whether he cancels it or it gets vault cancelled. His model flips directly before the end roll animation plays which to me indicates the vault triggered it. (Vault causes character models to flip directly, requiring the play to input another move command to flip back around again)
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This is pretty simple. Quinns vault has a unique hit box that keeps pinging every frame until it collides with an enemies overall hit box. It wasn't detecting collision vs rammus Q hit box (my guess is the vault HB hit rammus just shy of the powerball HB, thusly disabling the Powerball and forcing Quinn to perform the vault.)
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it was a bug
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maybe he was ending his animation?
It's possible... but I really don't think so :-/ he'd barely been rolling for any time and it really looks like I hit when he's still in it. Can you stop rammus roll early without colliding with anything btw?
To answer your question, yes Rammus can Q to end powerball early