New Doom Tech from HonzoGonzo™
Posted Jan 24, 2013, 2:48 PM UTC
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Because Doom's HM assist is a command normal - it can be cancelled with a special move/flight on a Alpha Counter.
I remember Seth Killian talking about HM AC as hidden tech for Doom. Because if Doom X-Factored while coming in it served as an option select for a throw.
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Any AC can can cancel into X factor->throw, no?
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Absolutely; but because of the command for HM is <- H the X-Factor already registers it as an input - giving you a free grab off the AC.
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My mind is fucked. Time to test it out
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Isn't this old tech like from vanilla? Does this work with hypers? In vanilla I'd used to alpha counter missiles into level 3, IIRC it doesn't work in ultimate.
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Just checked this, you can cancel straight in to lvl3, not sure if using 4 bars is worth it.
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Damn, for some reason I thought it wasn't possible in ultimate (probably because you cant do it on point) but I was using that in vanilla..
I would say if it can guarantee a kill or waste opponent's xfactor time or something it'd be worth it, especially if this option retains invincibility. With my team (and with the increasing prevalence of infinites/long TAC combos) meter is usually not an issue.
Thanks for checking!
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Didn't check for invincibility...was only testing off of a single hit. If it does though I can see a lot of use for that.
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Canceling Hidden Missiles into specials? It's a normal, so that makes some sense.
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Try to do this with Doom playing, it's not a normal normal. It's not even super cancelable, it's only cancelable into Team Hyper Combos, which is why missiles into doom/ammy super in the corner is possible.
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Right. But I would be surprised if some of the very early frames aren't cancelable, even when done on point -- which is why in this video he messes it up a few times. There aren't many cancelable frames, but there are some.
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There are no cancelable frames.
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There are cancelable frames, or you can slip an input in before HM starts, or it is magic. I am merely providing some speculation.
If you already know everything, that's cool, please share the knowledge.
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... and skrull can't even cancel his Orbital Grudge into Fatal Buster after alpha counter. What the fuck, Doom.
He's the game's golden child.
Don't forget Rapid Slash let's you combo for free
Oh yeah, that too. It's almost like the tier list is programmed into the damn game.
I don't know why more people don't use this. Is there some huge draw back to doing this that I haven't seen yet?
You can get poked out of it leading to a dead vergil, the punishment window is hella secific.
I know it can be used against Dorm's chaotic flame if timed right, but I see what you mean.
it scales really hard too
Fighting game players are notoriously lazy. Including myself.