Proof that Scholars Believed the Earth Was Flat

(Question/Discussion)

Firstly, there is evidence from a book that was written by an actual historian:

So, for the last 2500 years, in Europe and in the Middle East, the flat-earthers were in a very small minority. At least, this is what the historian Jeffrey Burton Russell, of the University of California at Santa Barbara, reckons.

His book, In Inventing the Flat Earth, claims that since the third century BC, practically all educated people in the western world believed in a spherical earth.

Looking as a historian into the historical record, he found tens of thousands of Christian theologians, poets, artists and scientists who believed that the earth was a sphere.

On the other hand, he could find only five Christian authorities who believed in a flat earth.

Secondly, Here is how Ibn Kathir interprets the following hadith from the prophet which proves that the earth is not flat, meaning the prophet knew that the earth is not flat:

Hadith:

Ibn Kathir in the following tafseer emphasizes "that if there is night on this "face [part]" of earth, on the other "[part]"it must be day, which is only possible if he believed in a round earth:

This Ayah [3:133 above] is like Allah's statement in Surat Al-Hadid:

(Race with one another in hastening towards forgiveness from your Lord (Allah), and Paradise the width whereof is as the width of the heaven and the Earth) [57:21].

Al-Bazzar recorded that Abu Hurairah said that a man came to the Messenger of Allah and asked

him, about Allah's statement,

(Paradise as wide as the heavens and the Earth) [3:133]; Where is the Fire then" The Prophet said,

(When the night comes, it overtakes everything, so where is the day) The man said, "Where Allah

wants it to be."The Prophet said, (Similarly, the Fire is where Allah wants it to be.)

This Hadith has two possible meanings. First, when we do not see the night during the day, this does not mean that the day is not somewhere else, even though we cannot see it. Such is the case with Hellfire, for it is where Allah wants it to be. The second meaning is that when the day overcomes this part of the world, the night overtakes the other part. Such is the case with Paradise, for it is in the utmost heights above the heavens and under the Throne.

It is amazing how the above hadith, above words from Ibn Kathir رضي الله عنه kills two birds with one stone. It debunks the flat earth, but also debunks the hadith where Allah عزّ وجلّ‎ descends at night, which clarifies that the "night" is relative.

Finally, for those who believe this article deduced that there cannot be a flat earth consensus:
https://theislamissue.wordpress.com/2019/03/22/scholarly-consensus-of-a-round-earth/

Please read this thorough debunking of it in this response:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/13iQMMpCDdkPaPXI9FLLfekOfVXlxc4N4/view

Posted Nov 1, 2023, 4:07 PM UTC

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