[Post-Game Thread] Clemson Defeats South Carolina 16-7
Fuuuuuucck
Posted Nov 26, 2023, 3:52 AM UTC
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Without that drop of the lateral pass this was a 9 to 7 game. Both offenses were awful and the defense kept us in it. We might be injured but our offense disappeared tonight. We need some OL badly.
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If they stay committed, they’re on the way.
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Did anyone else see that Josiah Thompson was upgraded to a 5-star OT on one or two recruiting sites?
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He’s so so close to a composite 5 star, just a slight upgrade from rivals and he’s there, they seem to not like him much, or just haven’t re-evaluated him since early last year.
I think Fuller and Solomon (if he stays committed) are both in line for big upgrades, going to be our highest quality class ever by far
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Blowing that game to Florida hurts more than this tbh.
At least that was an entertaining game though.
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I think what’s killing me is if this defense showed up against Florida we win that game easy…
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Entertaining…..?
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I meant the Florida game was entertaining. Not this one.
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Disregard my comment, am drunk
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Nah you're good. My comment wasn't all that clear.
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And of course that’s the one as an alumni I chose to fly in for
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Definitely agree that blowing the Florida game felt worse.
Losing to Clemson takes it to another level, but otherwise this was a garden variety “we’re just not that good” kind of game.
Sucks not to take advantage of another electric home environment though.
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I'd like for Dowell Loggains to explain why he thought that game plan would have a chance at working.
Yeah man keep trying those swing passes that haven't worked all year. Yeah and lets keep throwing screens to our concussed running back, that's a good idea. Yeah lets run a double reverse on 4th and inches on the goal line, maybe we'll get lucky and Doty will make a play for the TD. Yeah its 4th and inches but lets run out of the shotgun.
I mean what the fuck.
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Well every time Rattler drops back for a pass he gets sacked.
What else could we possibly do?
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You run better route concepts to allow Rattler to have faster more clear options. Every competent offense on Earth does it.
On 3rd & 7 you don't see Michigan dropping back and expecting 3+ seconds to pass. They drop back, have fast developing routes, the QB makes a pre-snap read, and the ball gets out
We never do that. Ever. Even when Rattler is getting pressured the entire game.
On top of that, I'd rather us try and throw it 3 straight times than run for 0 yards with a concussed RB, with one of the worst 5 rushing offenses in the country, when the run game hadn't worked all night long. Rattler has a very good ability to complete passes, even under pressure
Throwing 3 straight passes would give this offense an infinitely better chance of moving the ball. But instead we bang our head against a wall, don't fix the routes concepts, continue running slow shotgun runs up the middle, and look completely incompetent
There is zero excuse for it being that bad. When defenses do anything, there are weaknesses somewhere. It is the OCs job to find those during the week, know his offenses strengths, and effectively adjust in game. Ours didn't do a single one of those
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While I agree that last game was awful, our offense has been fine most of this year. First year as OC is hard because it's a new playbook with some old and some new players.
Everyone wants instant success from new coaches. That's not how reality works when you aren't already an elite team.
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There have been multiple games this year where the OL is outmatched and we still can still run some semblance of an offense. Running shit that obviously doesn't work over and over might as well be surrendering.
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Because the OL was so heavily overmatched that he could only come up with gimmicks. The play calling was painful to watch, but it isn't hard to see the reasoning.
There were some good calls in there to mitigate the weakness, but at some point, it is simply impossible.
It didn't help that Rattler didn't have his best night. Not that it was easy, but there were several missed opportunities.
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What about the other games where OL is overmatched and we can still score more than 7 points?
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I didn't see many games this year. Was it always this bad? Clemson was rarely sending extra rushers, and they were basically manhandling the OL on every play.
I'd say it looked like someone replaced them with an FCS squad, but I've seen better FCS lines.
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Because the oline couldn’t hold a block, it’s a swing pass or a sack.
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He sucks. It’s been obvious from day 1. He was consensus worst OC in the NFL. The next successful offensive he calls will be the first one.
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With the lack of protection for Rattler and no time for him to pass, I'd like for you to tell me what we should've done instead.
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That was a disappointing season.
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- Fuck Donald Trump, should’ve known the second he was there it was going to be a bad omen. 2. For the love of god we need a new Strength coach.
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He’s orange. Of course the orange team won with him there.
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showed up with orange face paint on, what did you expect!
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In what world was Trump getting a massive applause at halftime standing with McMaster the reason our OLine sucked and prevented our offense from generating anything?
Dear God man, its not that serious.
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Do you not know what a bad omen is?
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I realize what you're saying and disagree wholeheartedly, because your point is stupid in my opinion.
Its not a bad omen to have a former President who is incredibly popular in the state show up to the biggest game of the year. Its actually pretty fucking cool, because routinely this game is forgotten about compared to the other Rivalry Weekend games
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Nah it clearly was a bad omen. Dude should be in literal prison not going to football games.
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You’re from Ohio. This is not your state or your school.
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Bruh, I live in Cola and literally attended USC.
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You’re still from Ohio.
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And you spend your time on Reddit asking how to dress for women.
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That’s just what someone from Ohio would say
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I’m not from Ohio, so fuck him.
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Do you like punts? I've got the game for you!
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Kai supposed to be back next season.
Hopefully he has time to rest his leg up before then.
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Whatever they did to him in the offseason last year, they need to un-do in the offseason this year.
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Very comforting knowing this season is done. I hate losing to Clemson, and I hate this was the end for Spencer.
I want to remain positive but It's just all too familiar. The schedule next year only gets harder, we are going to need to hit the jackpot in the transfer portal if we want to go bowling next year. As always though, go cocks.
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I almost feel towards the end, you could see Spencer was deflated. Sucks this is how it he had to finish, but he did wonders all year, so no hate to him.
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I feel like the schedule is a bit more lenient next year. But I mean it’s sec there’s no such thing as easy
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Fortunately, next years schedule is a little easier than this year. We trade UNC for a Go5 team. Still tough though.
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And we get to play Bama LSU Oklahoma Ole Miss Clemzon. Definitely not easier
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Kind of a toss up. We dodge UGA, Tennessee, and Florida.
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I’d rather play Tennessee and Florida over LSU and Bama.
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It sucks but we were projected at 5 wins at the beginning of the season. This is as expected, by the numbers.
Beamer is safe for now (and honestly I think through next year two, barring a tank job). White is not going anywhere, not right after we fired Satterfield last year. We rebuild and get some dudes to protect Sellers for next year.
I wish it was different but it isn't. Go Cocks and see you all in September.
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It actually helps me to know this. I don’t pay attention to all that and based on last year I felt like this season was a massive under-performing of expectations but apparently not.
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I get that it feels like that, but we way way over performed the last 2 seasons. I'm pretty sure the first year we were expected to get like 2 wins.
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Hardest schedule in the nation. Most teams would struggle.
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This is Michigan's schedule. Imagine if we played this instead. The gamecocks have a minefield of a schedule.
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Can someone explain how a 3rd and 1 for Clemson, false start turned Into a 1st and 15 for them? Might’ve missed something being in the stadium but that didn’t add up to me
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The refs decided that actually nevermind they got the first down on the play before so that’s why.
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Before the play the ref was signaling first down but the chain gang didn't see him
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Makes a bit more sense thanks
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Still pissed we punted when we did…
Felt like we just gave up.
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Beamer said he would change that if he could go back and we were like 3/10 on first downs or something crazy. Idk I’m screaming at my TV go for it so what do I know…
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Meanwhile Dabo tries to run up the score no matter how badly they're leading.
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I mean Beamer calling those timeouts kinda begged for it.
Let's hope the Offensive line is much improved next year.
I think Clayton White might have saved his job with these last 4 games.
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Clayton White did save his job. Tough for many fans to hear but the defense played well down the stretch and kept us in this game. White won’t be going anywhere
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Sadly I think he has but he shouldn't.
Our last 4 games stretch was the easiest stretch of games all season. To let results from the weakest opponents determine success is asking to remain irrelevant. His scheme cost us the win against Florida, and outside one pick 6 we looked bad vs JSU. He has a problem making stops on 3rd downs, regardless of our opponents abilities, and the bend don't break mentality cost our defense in longer games.
This year vs. SEC opponents, our defense gave up an average 27.5ppg which includes the gifts UK and Vandy gave us. Without them we shoot up to 33ppg which is embarrassing, especially since it was expected that UGA was going to score more than what they did.
We cannot reasonably offer an extension to a DC giving up 33ppg to our best opponents. As stated, it's settling for mediocrity.
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Fuck. I’ve been doing this for 30+ years and do not understand why I still get emotionally invested in this worthless godforsaken team every single year. I hate you all. See you next year….
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I’m hitting that inflection point myself. See you in September!
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Stockholm Syndrome?
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I told myself I wouldn’t watch another game after the Florida debacle. It has done wonders for my mental health.
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How about some props to this defense?! They’ve come leaps and bounds. It just sucks that our offense is worse than Iowa, but don’t let that take anything away from how great our defense has played.
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While the defense did do really good tonight, it was still incredibly deflating giving up so many 3rd downs again
There are obviously major scheme issues and have been all season, none of which have been addressed. There's just no way a team can give up this many 3rd downs and especially 3rd and longs
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Since Ray Tanner was appointed AD our football program has become completely irrelevant and with no end in sight. We used to compete for east titles and now we aren’t even sniffing 500 and a bowl game above Shreveport level is a major accomplishment. We’re all giddy because we beat Kentucky. We’re more turned on by hype videos than wins. What a sad legacy for it to happen on his watch but until we value on field success as much as sending Ray to fundraising dinners we will never move an inch forward. This university’s athletic leadership is inept.
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We only competed for East titles in one period of time, and it was the Spurrier era. Don’t act like we were some powerhouse SEC team before he got here. Lou Holtz was going winless.
You can blame a lot on Tanner with bad hires, but acting like we were cream of the crop in the east is just silly. We only even made it to the championship once with Spurrier and got destroyed by Cam.
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Spot on
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This is a prime example of shitting the bed. Need a W to get bowl eligible? Need some semblance of offense against a team that has struggled to put up points all season? Get lucky with a gimmicky TD in the first quarter? All yeses.
Absolutely shameful, and I get Clemson was trying to hurt our players; it was obvious. But our defense held them to 16pts and we couldn't string together enough plays to even score FGs... Same shit as last week, except we didn't get the W.
Clayton White needs to go. Idgaf about the last two weeks. Same shit as Satt last year, he could've called the last two games but his resume for the season already spoke.
The way I see it, Loggains gets a chance to show signs of improvement next year with a healthy Oline, healthy RB core, and healthy WR- especially Juice. If he can't form a functioning offense by the end of next season with that, we go to someone who can. We need someone to teach WRs to catch regardless.
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But our defense held them to 16pts
9, and to talk up the defense even more, Clemson got the ball at the 40 all night long and was hitting 50yr field goals.
The D was lights out. We just have to rebuild our OLine.
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My bad, I'm tired and you're right.
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It came across as trying to tell you were wrong, I wasn't trying to. Just saying "yeah, the defense played damn good"
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Nah I was in agreement. I just made a mistake looking at the score rather than remembering what happened.
I hope it was that the defense played well, but I'm also concerned about White's season long resume. The loss to UF was the end of my sympathy for him and I wanted him gone. I think this is the same case. We rely on takeaways with him and if we don't get them we lose, simple as that. Clemson and UK has struggling offenses all season, it's the same reason we put up 63 bs Tennessee last year.
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We also have to replace the most talented QB we've ever had, find several good receivers somewhere, completely reconstruct the RB room, find some depth on the DL, keep the talented young guys out of the portal... We've got a lot to do if we want to be better next year.
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Very good point. Felt like we were in bad field position all night long. As, sadly, seems to usually be the case. Props to the D.
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OC was a negative hire imo, but he gets a chance next year with a hopefully more healthy team. DC needs to go, and we need to look into S&C, as we have amazing facilities and we have way too many players getting hurt early on. Tonight Clemson took those knee shots and I’m not sure how some type of calls couldn’t be called for that, but noticed they stopped after the 2. Then the RB head slammed and nothing called. No excuses for the year overall, but those injuries and no calls mattered tonight. Next year I hope to see improvement.
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There were a few no calls on Clemson, just like the back to back False Starts on us, their DLine was jumping in the neutral zone causing our guys to move... that's on them but the refs didn't see it that way.
The injury attempts need to result in immediate ejections, just glad the stopped before anyone got hurt. In wrestling you can't return an opponent to the mat on the same side you have an arm trapped, it'd be hard to enforce in football, but that slam was unnecessary.
S&C is an absolute need. I have no idea what clown we have in there now, but what the fuck is going on when a majority of our team is injured?
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My only guess is he was hoping for the players to figure it out and not just calling a run, which honestly was stuffed a bunch. However, that’s not an excuse. I still feel like we needed SEC refs on an SEC field. If we were at Clemson, fine, they get their leagues refs, so that’s still BS in my mind. I’m glad Wiggons (sp) stopped his bullshit before anyone got seriously injured, but something should have been called early on after 2-3 plays in a row he did the same damn thing . It may not have changed the outcome, but it would have been known he is playing dirty.
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I still feel like we needed SEC refs on an SEC field. If we were at Clemson, fine, they get their leagues refs, so that’s still BS in my mind
I always felt like OOC games should have neutral refs. Or maybe the NCAA should just take over the officiating like they do in every other sport, so the powers that sign their paychecks don't have as much to gain by one team winning.
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Scheduled a Palmetto Bowl and a B1G West game broke out. What a dogshit game. Think it’s the worst of any teams I’ve watched all year and I’ve normally got at least 2 screens going noon to midnight.
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Everyone defensively is returning except Jordan Strachan and dial we have pup Howard starting next year and O’Donnell fortune played well tonight I’m not trying to sound like I think we will go to the playoff but that I think we still can get lots of wins under beamer
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A lot of good to see for the future just hurts that we couldn’t put things together for the guys leaving considering there were a few winnable ones including tonight.
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We don't need to have our eyes on the playoffs yet. A post Christmas bowl would be a beautiful wish come true for next year.
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This game was over when that bitch body slammed Mario on his head and gave him a god damn concussion. Should’ve had our center take his knee out for that.
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The Clemson fans wanting Dabo to “go down and score” at the end is so fucking stupid it’s almost incomprehensible. If he could just go down and score then maybe they would have gotten even one offensive TD at some point in the game.
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Nah fuck that. I'd want us to score and go for two. Why? Because I can't go for three.
Fuck Clemson
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No, I would also want to score. What I’m saying is that people were imploring him to “go score” as in they thought their team would be capable of doing that and it was just a decision not to. That’s how I took it at least.
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If they were intelligent they wouldn’t have gone to Clemson or Kmart for their Clemson Tshirt…
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My parents said this and I called them greedy! I was like omg no he will take a knee
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Back to what matters. Women’s basketball.
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Hey men are off to a hot start as well let’s show them some love so Frank Martin doesn’t cry again from Boston or wherever he is…
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“I went .500 and still got fired from USC” - Frank Martin, somewhere north.
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Gamecock football doing us a solid and not getting in the way of us watching a championship caliber team.
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Glad that season is over.
Exactly. I think most of us who saw the depth chart didn't expect greatness. Happy that Rattler looked a lot better and that we had good performances at RB. The defense really stepped up too, eventually.
But you can't hide all personnel deficiencies.
that depth chart wasn't great. then it got worse. and worse. and worse.
I'm glad I'm not the only one. Stay cocky my friends, but....damn.