Lee Is Trying To Escape Theory
Whether she's the villain or the "haptive" remains to be seen but she is absolutely manipulative and full of it, and unless there are, in fact, two Lees, then the one Lee is a two faced, conniving, deceptive >!you know.!<
But let's play this out.
On the one hand, the purpose of the retreat is basically presented as a gathering of the greatest minds and talent to work on securing a human future, with underground bunkers and smart cities and robots to do the work so smart rich people can do whatever it is they do best.
Andy invited everyone, but 4 of them, according to the "game" these people were aware of, he invited on Lee's behalf. We presume they're builders and non builders.
We've had it mostly established Bill is Zoomer's biological father. Andy is happily raising him as his own. It's been cleared up by Andy, provided it was truthful and for this purpose we will say it is, that "this" is about Andy and sabotage, somebody is betraying him, and not anything to do with Bill finding out Zoomer was his or a way to prevent him from making a money play or whatever. Andy shot that right down.
We've established a black wig and passport under another name Marie Larsen we presume is Lee's because she's planning an escape of some sort.
Zoomer's trust rakes in hundreds of thousands of dollars a day. As long as Lee remains married, she has half control over the trust.
We've established that the retreat was built for the specific purpose of this gathering, to show them the future and the protection angle from the end of the world that is coming up faster than the science had initially indicated.
We've established that David and Oliver are each other's alibis.
We've established that David is from Argentina and the Marie Larsen passport is to Argentina, which is our only available link.
We've established Bill and Rohan were connected.
We've established Rohan was skilled at going off grid.
We've established Rohan was signaling somebody offshore.
We've established Bill and Lu Mei were on the same flight at the end of 2018.
We've established the hotel security truly sucks and that Ray is almost certainly being hacked by somebody aiming to manipulate the information Darby, and therefore us, receives.
Let's take all these things as true because Darby has accepted them as true, or appears to accept them as true, and we are Darby and we need to get somewhere solid here. As of E5, she acknowledges she has the pieces and the edges but not the middle, and has to figure it out.
IF the theory is Lee wants to leave, it doesn't matter much what her reasons are just yet. It matters how she would go about it under these circumstances.
If Lee is Zoomer's actual mom and she is planning to don a black wig and travel to Argentina under the name Marie Larsen, here are her options.
She packs a bag for herself and Zoomer, she waits for Andy to be down in the bunker, she calls a car, gets in it and drives away. She goes to the airport, she catches the flight to Argentina.
If she does this without a divorce, things will probably get ugly quick. She cannot control the trust if she is not married to him and she can't really move to Argentina with the boy and expect that'll fly. Andy would have the means and the reach to put a stop to it and then there's a messy divorce. Point being, that's not really a valid option for her to do that and expect to stay married or have custody.
She packs a bag for herself, she waits for Andy to be down in the bunker with Zoomer, she calls a car, gets in it and drives away. She goes to the airport, she catches the flight to Argentina.
There would be an initial fallout but she left Zoomer and didn't try to take any money, so I'd imagine he would accept those terms and if he loved her, he'd be hurt over it but would accept she needed something else and let her go...leaving the door open if she wanted to come back. Or he'd be done with her, remove her control from the trust, lock her out and cut her off. She's willing to give up her billionaire life and her own child to go take off alone to Argentina going by Marie Larsen and wearing a black wig. In that case, fck her.
If the end of the world is coming sooner, way sooner, she's clearly aware of it, she's part of this whole retreat and project. Would she think she'd be somehow safe in Argentina? Is there another bunker there and she would rather be where it's warm? Is it a case that she would rather live her days free and letting it happen naturally, not hiding in a bunker waiting on the end of the world? Would she truly subject her own child to a nightmarish end of the world scenario instead of wanting to make sure he survived and was safe even if it wasn't with her?
If her agenda was nefarious, to destroy Andy, and thus his dream of refuge from climate catastrophe, or take all his money, his son, and flee to Argentina, the above questions are still on the table. What, exactly, is she going to do? What's in Argentina that prevents Andy's reach or influence from taking back his son or ruining her?
If you've watched Forensic Files or Dateline at all you know there's another option women who feel trapped often resort to. It's not ruining their husbands. It's offing them. I mean if Andy dies she inherits all of it, she's the rich tech billionaire widow. In that case, it makes the black wig and Marie Larsen identity and passport to Argentina a little pointless. The second Andy dies, she's in the spotlight anyway. No black wig is going to hide her identity. Why would she need to change it?
She can't control the trust if she divorces him. She can have it all if she kills him or has him killed. If she has him killed, she could set up a patsy for it and nobody's the wiser.
Another option then would be that she fakes her own death. It is kinda going around. And perhaps that is the point. These people are aligned with her, they are helping her, as some have theorized. That could well open the door to Bill's fake death, Rohan's and Sian's fake deaths... and it's all an elaborate ruse to trick Andy into thinking somebody is out to get him so he doesn't notice the plan was always helping Lee fake her death so she could then don a black wig, flee to Argentina as Marie Larsen...but without her child.
So the helping Lee escape doesn't quite work out for her and surely she'd know these would be realities she'd have to consider.
Given how manipulative and deceptive she's been toward Darby, and knowing now that Darby is confronted with Lee's potential for being behind what's happening and that she can't trust Lee anymore, even though many of us didn't trust Lee from episode 1...it is also quite possible that the bag and wig and passport are not for the purposes of her fleeing to Argentina at all.
Maybe it was planted there, anticipating Darby coming to the room...she wanted Darby to snoop and find it...to see if Darby would tell Andy. Darby had already confessed about the Zoomer and sterile knowledge...so finding her looking at the passports, Lee assumed she could trust Darby after all, but it was interrupted by Andy.
Or maybe, that two Lees problem is cleared up with Marie Larsen being Lee's twin. Both blond. But Marie Larsen is the one who's been trapped there and she wants to leave. Maybe Marie Larsen is Zoomer's mother, and Bill met Marie Larsen, which is why he didn't know Lee Andersen. Maybe Andy knows Marie is there also and that is why he invited Bill or why Lee did, to bring him there to see Marie.
If there is one Lee, and Lee is intending to flee to Argentina in a black wig for real, she's not going to take Zoomer with her and get very far. If she doesn't care about Zoomer, she leaves him behind, and walks away. Or she fakes her death so Andy won't try to find her ever again.
Andy has been quite touchy and defensive about Lee being guilty of anything or being questioned, and waves Darby off that all the time. He definitely does not want Darby and Lee to be talking.
The passport date is January 10, 2023.
Darbie gets the invitation January 28, 2023
I'm questioning the notion that the wig and passport and other name are realistically, given the set up of the show so far, something Lee would be of a mind to do...and if her goal was to fake her death, she wants out of all of it. End or the world is irrelevant. She wants out enough to give up her own kid, leaving him with Andy, so clearly she wouldn't think Andy's some kind of monster she has to fake her death to get away from.
Unless she plans on faking both their deaths...
OR..........
This is a herring across the board if her legal, birth name is, in fact, Marie Larsen. That's how Bill met her originally pre Darby. That's why he didn't know who Lee Andersen was. That was her online name. We got it backwards lol. Lee is the fake name. It's the internet. She got doxed as Lee Andersen so she retreated to Florida, as her actual real name Marie Larsen and nobody's the wise.
Now Lee Andersen comes out of hiding and marries the tech billionaire, everybody recognizes her right out of the gate. She is famous, everyone knows her as a blonde.
So if she needs to travel incognito, she still has her real life passports with her real life name on it, as Marie Larsen. She used a wig for the passport photos to make her less recognizable. At most people can say she kinda looks like Lee Andersen and that's all it amounts to.
The passport Darby found was issued Jan 10 2023. She flew to Argentina IN JANUARY 2023 already. The bag was just in the room, she didn't unpack it, no need to. It's not that important. After her business in Argentina, she flies on to Iceland for the retreat.
No funny business required. 😁
Posted Dec 9, 2023, 7:29 AM UTC · edited
Great thoughts and a very through examination of the facts.
I wonder though, if Bill or Rohan would’ve gone along with it apply that seemed conniving or nefarious. As I don’t think they’ve ever been characterized as either of those. We know that Bill came to the retreat specifically for Lee, and we don’t find Bill to be untrustworthy, rather the opposite. I think we can be generous in our opinion of Lee as well. Something I found noteworthy is that it has been shown that Lee has been a victim of mage violence and hate in the past, when she was doxed due to calling out misogyny. I don’t think we should so easily dismiss as I think it forms her character in the present. Additionally, I think her fear is being mistaken as her hiding something or being conflated with her being two-faced.
Imagine if you were in an abusive relationship with the world’s most powerful man, a man who had developed security AI that could track you anywhere in the world by having access to public data, as well as the ability to buy private data. How could you possibly escape? Wouldn’t you be nervous and terrified that you’d be found out? Wouldn’t you have to take drastic memes to escape that situation? Perhaps even fake your own death and assume a new identity?
We should remember that one of the overarching themes we’ve seen, time and time again in the show, is men committing violence against women and how misogyny actively harms women. I would find it rather surprising if Lee’s motives and actions didn’t align thematically to those of the overall show. And it’s been through that lens that I’ve been contemplating Lee’s goals and motivations as well as how she fits in the story.