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r/SRSsucks•
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Fitness forums are full of people who want to lose weight and this offends me

http://www.reddit.com/r/SRSWomen/comments/19m0yw/sick_of_weightloss_emphasis_in_most_fitness_forums/

Stumbled into SRSW through you guys and then saw this. Wanted to post the following response but I knew it would just be ignored since they have rules against people like me:

If you look at the fittest people in the world (take olympians as the obvious example), how many of them are fat? Weight loss is key to being in shape, you can't run 100m in under 10s if you have an extra 60lbs to try and move. Not saying that that's your goal, but complaining that fitness forums, full of people who want to run faster, lift more weight, and jump higher, are too weight loss-centric when reducing non functional body mass is key to that doesn't make much sense.

I just don't fucking get it. Like why if you're someone who's actively trying to get fit would you object to content about weight loss? You go to any weightlifting forum, ask any personal trainer, walk in to any doctor's office and ask them "if I weigh 300lbs and want to start getting in shape and start bodybuilding/running triathlons/doing hardcore parkour, what should I do first?" they'll say burn all the excess fat off your body with cardio. Its not because they're fatshaming you, its because the fucking weight holds you back. Getting complemented on eating well is something no rational person would respond negatively to.

Anyways, I'm preaching to the choir with this shit so I'll cut it short.

Posted Mar 4, 2013, 9:31 AM UTC

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HOATOP•

From the comments:

The only reason weightless talk is so triggering for me is because when I mention off hand that nothing has ever worked for me, my character is immediately called into question and I'm obviously not trying, don't care enough, and totally worthless and lazy.

If we put her on a 1700 calorie diet (maybe even 2000, whatever) and made her run at a reasonable pace on a treadmill for 30 min each day, there would be no possible way not for her to lose weight. The nothing has ever worked for me bullshit is always spewed by people who think that taking the stairs everyday at their 5th floor office job and cutting out soda from their diet but ignoring total calories/all the other crap they eat counts as working out and eating healthy.

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IsADragon•

triggering

Stop using that fucking word in every sentence!!! And yeah sorry but if you have tried "literally everything" and still haven't lost weight then people are right to call your character into questions because you are clearly lying or need to get to a doctor and get whatever you have diagnosed.

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Kar98_Byf42•

Oooooh, I have a genetic problem with my glands! That's why I weigh 425 pounds, not those 5 million calorie "coffee" milkshakes I'm getting from Starbucks three times a day.

Actual quote from an actual female weighing actual 425 pounds.

Seriously, one of them damn things alone could sustain you, calorie-wise, for an entire day.

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DerpMatt•

WOmen want a quick fix. But they do not want to work for it. This is why fad diets and gimmicks work so well when marketed to them. Like the Shake weight, or various shakes.

The best way to lose weight. Eat less, exercise more.

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Always_Doubtful•

the gimmicks work cause people are fucking stupid.

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Myfishwillkillyou•

But it's definitely only women who want this. Not men. And women only want quick fix fad diets and have no concern for healthy long term lifestyle changes.

I'm not SRS nor am I particularly into women's rights stuff, but something about your comment just doesn't sit well with me.

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scottoh•

It didn't sit well with me either, but there is no reason to be snarky

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Myfishwillkillyou•

I don't think I'm being snarky. Just because we're not SRS doesn't meant we have to be assholes.

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DerpMatt•

Well, i may have come off a bit harsh. But it is true. Fad diets are usualy primarily focused on women. "diet" foods too. Yogurt ads. They marketed yogurt to women as a "quick and diet safe snack". But if you actually look on the label, it is filled with sugars and other shit. Diet cola ("Now I can eat anything!") etc.

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JakalDX•

This is not a characteristic inherent in women. People in general want a quick fix. Why wouldn't you? Some people are more disciplined than others.

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daman345•

Why the fuck would you be on fitness forums if you not only don't want to get fit, but the very idea of losing weight is causing PTSD panic attacks? Fucking hell

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niggazinspace•

I WENT ON THESE CAR FORUMS AND NO ONE WANTED TO TALK ABOUT WOMYNIST SOCIAL JUSTICE, THE SHITLORDS ONLY WANTED TO TALK ABOUT CUSTOMIZING ENGINES ...

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ArchangellePedophile•

HE TALKED ABOUT BUYING A NEW TRANNY... HOW OFFENSIVE!!!

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Always_Doubtful•

Your awesome i nearly died laughing.

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niggazinspace•

Thanks!

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dodaddy•

I like that they use the word "triggering" as if an overweight person's reaction to hearing about dieting is similar to a rape victim's when hearing about sexual assault.

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fourredfruitstea•

It always happened because at some point my body got used to subsisting only on 1,000kcal/day even though I was heavy, bodies get more efficient, it happens.

There was a link over in r/tumblrinaction regarding this [trigger warning: science]:

http://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJM199212313272701

Discrepancy between Self-Reported and Actual Caloric Intake and Exercise in Obese Subjects

Some obese subjects repeatedly fail to lose weight even though they report restricting their caloric intake to less than 1200 kcal per day. We studied two explanations for this apparent resistance to diet — low total energy expenditure and underreporting of caloric intake — in 224 consecutive obese subjects presenting for treatment. Group 1 consisted of nine women and one man with a history of diet resistance in whom we evaluated total energy expenditure and its main thermogenic components and actual energy intake for 14 days by indirect calorimetry and analysis of body composition. Group 2, subgroups of which served as controls in the various evaluations, consisted of 67 women and 13 men with no history of diet resistance.

RESULTS.

Total energy expenditure and resting metabolic rate in the subjects with diet resistance (group 1) were within 5 percent of the predicted values for body composition, and there was no significant difference between groups 1 and 2 in the thermic effects of food and exercise. Low energy expenditure was thus excluded as a mechanism of self-reported diet resistance. In contrast, the subjects in group 1 underreported their actual food intake by an average (±SD) of 47±16 percent and overreported their physical activity by 51±75 percent. Although the subjects in group 1 had no distinct psychopathologic characteristics, they perceived a genetic cause for their obesity, used thyroid medication at a high frequency, and described their eating behavior as relatively normal (all P<0.05 as compared with group 2).

The failure of some obese subjects to lose weight while eating a diet they report as low in calories is due to an energy intake substantially higher than reported and an overestimation of physical activity, not to an abnormality in thermogenesis. (N Engl J Med 1992; 327:1893–8.)

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HOATOP•

all I could think of

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[deleted]•

What I had yesterday to eat:

  • An uncle burger: 570 calories
  • Onion rings: 470 calories
  • A root beer: 320 calories
  • Spinach and tomato salad: 60 calories
  • One sloppy joe: 340 calories

Total calories: 1760

This is well above an average woman's BMR, and is a bit above the amount I myself need to eat to lose weight.

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DedicatedAcctSupernova's Hero•

Huh. I lose a pound a week at 1800 calories a day. 2200 is my maintenance. I usually can't eat that amount in a day. I wind up making up the extra calories in booze at night.

I really wonder about people who keep their weight up so high. Like are they eating tons of pizza? Buckets of fried chicken? Liters of high calorie soda? Where does all the extra energy come from?

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[deleted]•

Alcohol calories don't make you gain weight, FYI. The actual 'real' calories in, say, a bottle of beer is the amount of carbs you have in it, which in a bottle of Sleeman is 12 carbs, so 48 calories. The issue is, however, when you drink, your body puts your metabolism on hold until you process the alcohol, and since people usually pair their seven beers with like six slices of pizza, this causes weight gain.

By and large, it's people eating shittons of carbs and not realizing how much they're actually eating, usually through willful ignorance. A modestly sized plate of pasta is going to run you like 500 calories, and how many people tend to go back for seconds, or even thirds?

A lot do. Then add in lunch, a sandwich with like mayo, cheese, meat, and bread. Right there, it's like 300-500 calories. Breakfast? Maybe a bowl of cereal, which is gonna run you like 200 calories.

Now add in pops, juice, a cookie or two, milk, tea, coffee, and you can see it add up. Even before this, we're at like 2200 calories. Add these, anywhere from 200 to like 700. Factor in people who get the most exercise by, at best, taking the stairs every other day rather than the elevator, and the picture is clear.

The things I listed aren't even like the overindulgence that is typically attributed to fat people. Our carb consumption in the west is absolutely ridiculous, and rather than meats, nuts, and veggies being the primary sources of calories, we've decided to make the nearest precursor to glycogen it instead, which among other things, elicits a DOPAMINE RESPONSE when consumed which, in other words, means people have their reward centers activated

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ArchangellePinochet•

Bear with me here

Reading the self-indulgent, defensive and shallow bravado of confirmed hamplanets ("I'm beautiful the way I am losing weight is for losers OINKOINK") not only motivates me to keep up the cardio and resistance training, it fills me with a genuine sense of warmth and happiness when it comes to what I have already achieved.

I've never been fat, but I wasn't exactly fit, so I started doing cardio about a year and a half ago. I also gradually made changes to my diet to cut out shit food. About six people commented that I had noticeably lost weight, which is always a pleasure since it confirms that my hard work actually pays off (personally I didn't notice the weight coming off - I think it's harder to notice this about yourself since you live in your body every day, but when you don't see someone for weeks, they will notice it). A few months ago I started weights, just taking it at my own pace at first, now challenging myself more, and I'm beginning to see muscle definition. If I simply keep up what I'm doing, I will keep on making progress.

Yes, you have to challenge yourself, but challenging yourself is actually not that difficult (and is actually pretty fun). So when I see land masses like these complaining about others losing weight and becoming more fit (while they noisily stuff their faces with ice cream doughnuts and pretend to not care about their disgusting, unhygenic skin rolls), I feel a shimmer of joy through my whole body.

I will never have to be in the situation they are in - seeking refuge in a ridiculous, pro-obesity, anti-health posture because I was unable to get my ass up out of the chair and exercise. I will never have to lie to myself and others that fat is okay and has no bearing on attractiveness to people who don't have some perverted fetish for fleshmountains.

I love when self-deluding fatties mash their keyboards in a vain attempt to convince us there is nothing wrong with them. I love it because it's so obviously untrue, they're so obviously aggrieved, and I can sit back and laugh because nothing tastes as good as this feels.

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thesreynatwork•

Articulate and accurate (at least for me). Pretty much exactly the same situation too.

I love my exercise now that I've regularly started incorporating it. The prevalence of actual thyroid/genetic conditions causing uncontrollable weight gain or preventing weight loss is ridiculously small compared to what these beached whales want to believe.

But of course, science is a tool of the patriarchy, and the very idea of calories in vs calories out is just male oppression.

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dowork91•

I feel you there. I read fat acceptance blogs for motivation. I never want to ever, ever be like them. Plus, working out seems to piss them off, and there's nothing better than mad fatties.

Protip: channel their fat tears and fatty rage and use the energy to get your ass to the gym!

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Redorath•

I love you for hamplanets.

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GoTzMaDsKiTTLez•

Go to r/fatpeoplestories. They have tons of hilarious slang, such as

I wasn't aware of it at the time, but she wanted o be Jupiter when she grows up.

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ArchangellePinochet•

Yeah, that's where I first heard 'hamplanets.' I lmfao'd.

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PhylisInTheHood•

amen brother. im in the same boat as you. trying to eat right and get some exercise so i can loose my love handles. it is tough though, im amazed how easy it is to pack on calories when you're not counting them.

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Legolas75893•

Then there's the one girl saying she's trying to KEEP her babyfat.

They WANT to die early, it seems.

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rebuildingMyself•

And more likely to be alone, because those horrible men prefer non fat people (those sexists).

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Legolas75893•

Nonfat, nonsasquatch and showering women.

How dare they.

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frogma•

I'll come right out and say it: I prefer non-Sasquatch women. Let the dowvotes come.

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ArchZodiac•

Shaming me for what I feel comfortable with!

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MayorEmanuel•

If you actually read her comment she said she was less than 100 pound (or whatever the cut off is to give blood). Having too little fat is unhealthy to, you realize this?

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Legolas75893•

Oh yea, I know. But I'm saying, in general, SRSters are against people telling them to lose when when they are 300+ lbs.

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rebuildingMyself•

Translation: I can't lose weight easily so everyone who wants to lose weight is offensive.

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HOATOP•

I can't be bothered to make an effort to lose weight so everyone who wants to is offensive.

FTFY

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Jovial_Gorilla•

Keep preaching. All this prolonged, rhetorical whining has me pissed off, too.

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niggazinspace•

The emphasis on fitness forums is on weight loss because ... most people start and continue exercise with a desire and expectation to lose weight (!!)

While "not dying from a heart attack in 50 years" is a great motivation in the abstract, it's hard to make that seem real. On the other hand, making your body look thin and fit is a very here-and-now thing.

And here's a juicy one:

I loathe being defined by my weight, and I do my best to never talk directly to somebody's body image instead of them as a person. But one thing that really kills me deep inside is when I'm treating someone right and they define themselves negatively by their body image.

Translation: THE WAY I RELATE TO PEOPLE IS CORRECT. NO ONE SHOULD EVER HAVE A DIFFERENT VIEW OF HIMSELF THAN I DO

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HOATOP•

I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with not bringing up someone's body image/weight in your interactions with them, if anything that's the polite/reasonable thing to do. But pretending that them wanting to change themselves for the better is negative is ridiculous.

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niggazinspace•

Yeah, I try to err on the side of being kind - if a person is 400 lbs then there is no way I am going to start talking to them about weight or health issues. I consider that their business to bring up.

However, if they talk negatively about their weight or their body, I would not counteract that with some healthy body image happytalk either. A negative body image in a morbidly obese person might help them achieve a moment of clarity and be the catalyst for change.

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SRSBrigade•

The only reason weightless talk is so triggering for me is because when I mention off hand that nothing has ever worked for me, my character is immediately called into question and I'm obviously not trying, don't care enough, and totally worthless and lazy.

TIL eating less and exercising doesn't work when you're trying to lose weight.

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ArchangellePinochet•

They probably try it for a week, see no changes, it looks like too much hard work to continue, so they write it off as "doesn't work"

Seriously it's not just eating less, eating right, and exercising. It's also about keeping it up. It needs to become a lifestyle, not a diet.

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Shit_Lord_9000•

This is exactly what it is. I tried going to the gym with a friend a few years ago for a few days and was like "well this isn't working, I'm still fat! Fuck this shit, I'm gonna go play xbox." It wasn't until I found Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu and was having a fucking blast sweating my dick off that I actually started to lose weight and that wasn't even why I signed up for it! After only doing it for 3 months I've lost some weight, built some muscle...and I don't even eat that great. I still eat shitty foods, but I did get rid of soda and drink water all day and take supplements. I find that a fair trade off. I'm trying to figure out an actual healthy diet right now to really complete this transformation.

But now when I see people I haven't seen in awhile they always tell me "wow dude, you're looking great!" compared to years ago was "wow man you're getting fat." Now when I get injured or sick and can't make it into the gym I feel terrible, I get easily pissed off and short tempered, and just feel like I'm not doing what I should be doing. Point is, you gotta find something you find that you like. If you're miserable you'll give it up in no time.

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[deleted]•

How much do you want to bet she refuses to hit the weights hard as well?

Cardio is supplementary to weight lifting and eating well.

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Kar98_Byf42•

Somebody, somewhere posted the gist of it: to the left a fat seacow and all her FB friends fawning how beautiful and strong she is, and to the right a cute, rippling hardbody, and the commenters were all like, ewwww, that shit be nasty.

Being your own fat, wobbly self, yay America. Exercising and sculpting your body, yuck.

This goes beyond SRS.

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NiggerJew944•

That picture made me rage a little inside. Someone here post it pls.

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[deleted]•

This seems like a troll to me. The post title is too perfect.

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ArchangellePinochet•

No. They genuinely think fitness has nothing to do with weight. LOL, I know. SRS has a sub called FitnessPlus which is about being "fit" while fat. Yes it's a contradiction in terms but social justice fats never want to acknowledge that the problem is with them.

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the_internet_clown•

i find all the people in that srswoman thread pathetic

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Shit_Lord_9000•

"You're eating healthy again [Utter shock on their face] Good for you girl!"

Most people would take this as a compliment instead of getting all shitty.

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Asymmetrical_Pwnage•

On the plus side SJW's obsession with fat pride means we won't have to deal with them as long.

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luxury_bananaPhD in Critical Quantum Art Theory•

They want to feel better about being really fat and unattractive and anyone who has the actual drive to do something about it makes them feel bad about themselves.

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Kar98_Byf42•

Anybody who wants to better themselves is just submitting to the patriarchy's pressure.

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moonshoeslol•

I've said it before and I'll say it again. Heart disease is the #1 killer in the US, and a clogged artery doesn't give a shit about your beauty standards.

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Always_Doubtful•

I've always suggested to people if they want to lose weight then book an appointment with a dietitian and they'll work with your on a customized plan to lose weight and also workout at a pace thats right for you.

There are people in this world that look great overweight if they MANAGE the weight. If you want to look obese then do it. No one is forcing you to lose weight.

BTW why would anyone join a fitness forum if they have no reason to lose weight ?

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thisishorsepoop•

Then I made the mistake of walking into a GNC to look for caffeine strips, specifically saying I just wanted caffeine (I've gotten decent deals on them in the past) and the guy there starts telling me that I should really start working out and recommends this protein powder shit to me.

I have a hard time believing this happened.

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