But is it really worth it?
Making the hard question here (probably made 1000th time already). I am out to buy a laptop, 13/14" with decent specs and especially 32+GB of ram. Used for coding, media content, and casual gaming. I usually shop second hand.
I come from using a MacBook Pro 13 2016 for 7 years, then switched less than 1 year ago to a second hand Thinkpad T14s AMD 1st gen, which I really like except it comes with 16GB of soldered ram and that is a deal breaker for me ATM. I run Linux on the Thinkpad and loving it. So I am out there again to shop and stumbled into the Framework since, from my search, it is literally the only 13/14" laptop with dual slot expandable ram (which is insane btw, thank you for nothing 2024).
Now the thing is, I really love the Framework concept and the specs on the top AMD 13" are everything I am looking for: small ff, sufficiently thin and light, powerful cpu, nice display, upgradable dual slot ram and disk, repairable everything. But ffs I have to shell 2k euros for it.
I looked into the 2nd hand market and I can get very decently specced Lenovo/Asus/HP for 7/800 euros. I am talking same or better CPU, 32gb of (soldered) ram, 2/3k displays, etc... Most have m2 slots for disks and easily swappable battery, especially the Lenovos. I even looked into 2nd hand frameworks and, a part from being impossible to find, when you find them they are priced well above the market rate of the others and for lower specs configs.
My final thinking at the end is: it is true that I get to upgrade/repair every part of the Framework. But it is also true that I can cycle through almost 3 other non-framework 2nd hand laptops at the same price. Those 3 laptops will probably last me 10 years total and will always be specced higher than the framework. Also, upgrading a framework will cost me more than buying an entire other competitor 2nd hand laptop. NB I am talking always second hand because that has same or lower environmental impact than a framework altogether, also because I always sell or reuse my older machines, never throw them away.
So here goes my final question: can please someone provide me with any strong argument to buy a framework, as a consumer? (Excluding "I really like the project", which I do).
Thanks and sorry for the rant.
Posted Mar 28, 2024, 10:16 AM UTC