Image of S4 map from Bob Lazar Doc + superimposed
So there's a lot to this post. I finally watched "Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers. 10 minutes in there was a flash of two sections of a map around area 51, one which said "S4". I put them together and superimposed them on satellite imagery. We know S4 is somewhere near Area 51, I think I've heard it said south, but I don't have a direct reference.
Anyways I put the two maps together and superimposed this map onto a satellite image. I have no idea the providence of this map. (except of course being from the doc.) No maps I've found of the Nevada Test Site have an "S4", "Site 4", but of course this one does.
The map says "S4" but it's not clear what part of the map is "S4". Is it the mountain grouping? Is it one of the many squares? (I just realized in typing this that those squares are probably longitude and latitude gridlines or something similar, however, there are multiple different grids and squares.) Is it just designating a general area? Hard to tell. I marked the square around "S4".
While there is no S4 or Site 4 on any maps I've seen, there is an "Area 4", within the Nevada Test Site, however I doubt this has anything to do with S4. The map from the doc is on the border of the Nevada Test Site and the Nevada Test and Training Range within the Nellis AFB Complex. (See image 5 for a map of the whole complex). I've mapped Area 4 on satellite, but again, I don't think area 4 is S4. The Nevada Test Site is where many nuclear tests were conducted. Area 4 is off to the left of the original map, east of Papoose Lake, east of the mountain grouping, and east of the area where most of the bombs were detonated.
I've captioned all the images so you can see what I did and so it's cohesive.
There's quite a lot of information about each area in the NTS on wikipedia. Including photos of some of the structures on some of the sites. For example it says, "Area 4 held 40 nuclear tests for a total of 44 detonations. It is home to the Big Explosives Experimental Facility (BEEF)." It has a picture of said facility. It has lots of pictures of a lot of different structures throughout NTS. The "BEEF" can easily be located in satellite imagery, in great detail. Could one find S4? Here's a description:
Here is a description of the building straight from the doc and Bob: "He says he and other employees would gather near EG&G, fly to Groom Lake, then a very few people would get into a bus with blacked out, or no windows, and drive to S4. 'You get off the bus, what do you see?' [Bob:] 'Very interesting building; it's got a slope of probably about 30 degrees, which are hangar doors. And, it has textured paint on it, but it looks like sand--it's made to look like the side of the mountain that it's in. Whether it's to disguise it from satellite photographs or what.'" Later it says he took people out to see flying saucers flying flying over Papoose Lake. So theres the description of the building, and that it's near Papoose Lake. And I know i've heard a thousand times it's south of area 51/groom lake but I don't have a direct quote rn.
There's really good satellite photography nowadays. Up to 30cm^3/pixel, as mandated by the government, which I'm pretty sure is what google maps/earth has for most areas. I'm sure if Bob used his memory, perhaps even looking looking at any landmarks he remembers on the way or around the building, and looking at the roads that could accommodate a bus, he could easily locate S4. In fact I think some of those geoguesser ppl could find it too. Perhaps it's too hard to differentiate from the mountain on satellite imagery, but Bob knows what it looks like, how far from the road it is, everything.
As an example I've attached an image of the "BEEF" from Area 4, and a satellite image of it, showing you how clear the imagery is.
The map of unknown origin seems to imply the mountain grouping east of Papoose Lake is S4. If someone feels like combing the entire mountain range on google earth, go for it. The map does have roads. Some seem to sync up with the imagery and are findable. There are also roads visible from the imagery. I was looking at a place along one of the roads that seemed "believable" as "S4", seemed to generally match the description. However, google earth has historical imagery, and i was able to see the site wasn't developed until sometime between 1998-2002. (37°12'1.51"N, 115°55'42.95"W). You could also use historical imagery to see if roads existed. U can even draw paths.
The composite map from Bob Lazar Doc
superimposed on satellite imagery
the grid without the superimposed map
The Nevada Test Site with mountain ranges I used to sync up the maps
The NTS map superimposed on satellite imagery highlighting area 4
a map of all the nuclear bombs detonated on the NTS superimposed on satellite imagery
picture of the \"BEEF\" in area 4 as an example of how clear satellite imagery is
Posted Aug 29, 2024, 10:38 AM UTC