Explaining the difference between Dagon and Yuta's domain.

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Been seeing a lot of "Dagon's domain might be higher than Yuta's!" stuff around on a certain post, and it all falls down to the sure hit selection thing, so I'm here to explain the difference in skills they did and give you a in universe example of the differnece.

TLDR: Dagon had maki at 0% of the sure hit, Yuta had Yuji entirely removed from the sure hit.

To start this off, I would like to explain that there are two modes to a sure hit. The first i will call sure hit effect/rule, the second i will call sure hit activation. Sure hit effect just means you are under the rules of the sure hit, without the sure hit being activated yet. Examples of this are nanami in mahito's domain, sukuna in yorozu's domain, etc. The activation is simple, it activates the cursed technique, sometimes with a handsign, sometimes with a thought, etc. When domain's clash, the two sure hit rules clash, and they are unable to be activated until one wins, this will be important later.

Sukuna is under the sure hit rule but it has not activated on him yet.

Now that these two have been explained, I will go into the differences between what yuta did and what dagon did.

Dagon focuses the activation 70/30.

What dagon did was simple, he has an infinite supply of shikigami that he can summon at a limited rate, and he diverted this rate of fire between two people, naobito and nanami. However, maki is still under the sure hit effect rule, just not under the activation, the rule of the domain is that the shikigami are auto lock and are intangiable until they actually bite, maki is still under this rule that if the shikigami target her, they will act this way, however dagon chooses not to activate or target her with the activation just yet. She is STILL under the sure hit effect, he just has not activated it yet. It is the exact same as what yorozu is saying, sukuna is under the rule of "if i activate the sure hit, it will auto lock perfect sphere." but she hasnt activated it yet, and so he is safe. Maki was safe in that moment until he took down the two forces, in which case he diverted attention to her.

Maki being struck by the sure hit activation.

Now onto what YUTA did.

The sure hit effect rule is ONLY applied to sukuna.

To put it simply, Yuta isn't making yuji have 0% of the sure hit like maki had, yuji is entirely removed from the rule, he is not a percentage of the sure hit, maki was. This is the reason yuji could hold onto sukuna despite the fact that the jacobs ladder was blasting him, he wasn't being effected by jacobs ladder, he was entirely seperated from the sure hit which allowed yuji to hold onto him while the laser was blasting.

Yuji holding onto Sukuna as JL falls onto them.

Sukuna confirming that unlike Yuta's domain, this JL can hit them.

Now, last time I brought this up, some people said I was making this up and that this kinda thing doesn't exist in jjk, so this time i'm gonna provide another example of a character doing this EXACT thing.

Sukuna removing megumi from his sure hit rule.

In the clashes with gojo, it is revealed sukuna entirely removed his sure hit effect from megumi, allowing UV to strike him without clashing with sukuna's own sure hit. This is not Sukuna making megumi endure 0% of of the sure hit, because that would still cause megumi to be under the sure hit rule, which we know clashes with other sure hits, this is megumi being entirely removed from sukuna's sure hit, this is also the reason megumi isnt being cut by UV, because he isnt under the effect at all, even when gojo's domain breaks and MS strikes everything megumi is fine, because he isnt part of sukuna's technique's target. Here is another example.

Sukuna removes an entire area of sure hit.

Sukuna removes the entire area of his sure hit inside gojo's domain, forcing him to hold onto gojo, as his sure hit effect rule is no longer placed, this is not sukuna activating 0% of it, this is him removing it, if it was 0% he would still be clashing with UV because as I said earlier, sure hits cannot activate until they have won the clash, the sure hit rules are clashing. So no, I am not making this up, this is a genuine thing that exists in JJK. This is also likely the reason that Kenjaku's domain only targeted yuki and not the area around, because he turned it only on her, removing the effect on the area similar to how sukuna did, but thats just a headcanon.

I truly don't get why people find this so hard to believe, think about it like this. Yuta's barrier has several domain refinement feats, was improved and edited by gojo for a month with swap training, had sukuna praise it's sophistication, and clashed with MS, yes that was Yuta's barrier, it was not Gojo's barrier skills, it was Yuta's and he directly calls it out.

Yuta directly notes that his barrier training is part of him clashing with sukuna.

Dagon on the other hand, while he likely does have above average refinement due to constantly using it, failed to overwhelm megumi's incomplete domain. Think about it for a second, do you REALLY think these two domains are the same? WHY would Yuta's domain be shown and told to use of its skill, if it can't even overwhelm a incomplete domain, and yes, before ANYONE says it, they were clashing, megumi's goal wasn't to win the clash, but they are stated to be clashing domains.

They were clashing.

Here is a very good way that someone put it: Imagine a hose of water, dagon is putting his finger in the middle of the hose stream to create two paths of water that shoot out the sides, imagine those two paths of water are hitting nanami and nabito, with maki being safe in the middle of the stream. If dagon wanted to aim the water at her, she would get wet, but because it's not aimed at her, she's not getting wet until he shoots water at her. YUTA on the other hand is aiming his water hose full blast at sukuna and yuji together, yet sukuna is the only one getting wet, yuji remains dry despite being in the water's path.

Sorry for any typo's, i'm in a rush and I havent slept all night, my girlfriend ordered chick-fil-a and I have to go pick it up before breakfast ends.

Posted Feb 6, 2025, 3:08 PM UTC

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