Source
r/Fez•
CTSnicky

Fez theory live stream

Hello Fez community. I've been thinking about doing a live stream of the Fez PC version to work on some theories kicking around about the game and some puzzles. I've beaten the game with 32 cubes, 32 anticubes, 3 red cubes, scattered the red cubes, and collected all 4 owls and artifacts. I'm researching and reading everything I can find on the game, and everyone's most recent theories. My question for you is which to test and work with during the stream.

I'm attempting to make it an all day thing (~8 hours) on a Sunday, depending on real life stuffs (family and all that jazz, summer is a busy time fora 3 year old), in about 2 weeks hopefully (August 4th).

I'm mostly interested in the sound track clues as they seem rather concrete, and anyone with any familiarity with 2001 A Space odyssey (books especially, the trilogy) is more then welcome to come and share their expertise towards the monolith puzzle. I've reviewed several times (about 100, lol) Owl Effigy's youtube page for clues, and where this hasn't been confirmed as a legit source, it is interesting and unfortunately cannot be ignored.

Everyone's welcome, and there are no stupid theories (until proven to be stupid...). So feel free to speak your mind :)

Posted Jul 18, 2013, 2:12 PM UTC

311
Owltruism•

I will watch this... and ... try to contribute.

3
FraustDogger•

I've recently watched 2001 A Space Odyssey but still haven't noticed anything that gets us closer to the origin of the solution. Phil Fish didn't note the books in his AMA so it should be safe to assume the movie is the only influence that matters here.

1
CTSnickyOP•

My current thoughts on the movie/books is the origins of the monolith. A machine, used to pass along knowlege of space travel. I believe the solution rests in the alien clues, as, by the movie/book, they are it's creator. (Is Gomez a Star Child? Reborn with special powers). I'm currently (well technicaly I'm on my phone at the park) re-visiting any site with Squid Alien and Owls for specific clues. I feel that there must be Something on the other side of the Star Gate.

2
FishBulbBrewer•

I agree with this. From OwlEffigy and Phil's comments I feel like the main thing to glean from 2001 is the function of the monolith- a technological catalyst that triggers the evolution of man. I'm trying to figure out if there's anything to learn from the way it's activated in the movie.

If I'm interpreting it correctly, there are 4 "acts" to the movie (prehistory, earth man, space man, transcendent man), and these draw parallel to Fez (2D ignorant, 2D aware, 2D with 3D manipulation, 3D?). This is seen on a wall in New Zu, where there's a pyramid of Zu villagers (ignorant of anything non-2D), the villagers with an "eye" headband (live in 2D aware of 3D), the fez wearers (2D characters with 3D manipulation) and the king (presumably fully 3D realized). That would mean activating the monolith should cause Gomez to achieve this final transition. That's essentially where I've run dry, but I'm searching around and keeping an open mind.

Edit: might mean that 3D use has significance (first person mode, manipulating artifacts, the unfolding of the cube/numbers drawing in classroom), or the throne rooms/statue, or the owls- the 3D observers.

1
CTSnickyOP•

In OwlEffigy's video he makes a point to draw our attention to the solar system/planets. In 2001, the moon monolith seems to activate (the sound it makes) as the sun crests over the planet above the monolith. There's also some visuals of the planets aligning.

Edit: At this point I'm also looking for different ways of converting numbers or letters into what would amount to directions. In the binary star pattern it was spelled out, RT or LT. But if we discover some magical sequence of numbers/dates/coordinates, how does that tell us the code?

Observations: the planets in the model solar system are numbered, 1 for the purple planet, 2 for the moon, 3 for the "earth", and 4 as the sun. Also noted on the wall is another formula showing us that 1 + 4 + 5 = 10. I've spent some time in this room milling it over and haven't come up with anything too concrete to date. The other room I'm mostly focused on is the boiler rooms, in combination with the skull artifact. What strikes me the most about the artifact and the drawing on the wall is that the three eyes line up, unlike the squids that have a triangular orientation to their eyes. However upon finding the skull, Dot says that "they did visit" so it seems that it is still alien in nature. Also in the boiler room next to the skull are the letters "X Y Z", 3D axis, and a face of the tetrahedron with a helpful giant question mark.

Finally there is an image that shows up in the boiler room but also mostly in the door puzzle to get to the skull artifact that looks to me like an upside down squid alien over a 1 eye dude.

Final note, in Village it should be noted that it is likely that the big heads did live there once upon a time, and that any room that isn't front facing (default new game) seems abandoned due to the Gomezians (heh) not being able to shift to those dimentions and visit those houses, as well as most of the houses "other walls" that have cobwebs. It would seem that the boiler room has information on all walls meaning (to me) that this is where Geezer or a prior Fez did their research... not sure why shrugs. Also if there is a picture of the skull artifact... who did the sketch, and why put the artifact back if they did find it? If memory serves the boiler room contained a map of the door puzzle, so .. connection there again.

I'm rambling at this point... I'll stop now.

1
CTSnickyOP•

I spent the better part of last night going over the soundtrack images with a friend and seeing what we could find, what links we can find between them or to the game. We mostly came up empty handed, finding things only to figure out someone already has when digging deeper into that specific image on forums and such.

The image that really strikes out to me is the one from "Compass" the man, and apple, a post. Only thing I've come up with that's made sense is a teacher. In Fez the only apples you see are on the teacher's desk in the classrooms; from a 2D perspective that "post" could be the desk?

Anyway, my friend ditched me to go camping this weekend so I think I'll stream tonight while I mess around in Fez just looking at stuff and taking more screen shots of "all the things!". I should probably post where I'm streaming...

twitch.tv/ctsnicky/new

oh, also that would be around 9pm AST (Atlantic standard time or 8pm EST)

EDIT: Scratch tonight, work is making me stay late /sadface so I won't be home to stream.

EDIT: Double scratch tonight, got home during a storm, and wouldn't you know it, 30 minutes later a tree exploded and most of it landed on my car, smashing the rear window. Another tree exploded in my back yard taking out the street over's power. Lightning hit it and left a cool spiral explody wood... design in it. Daughter slept threw the whole thing :D .... I'mma go check on her again

1
Owltruism•

Well... let us know when you can stream and nothing is exploding :b

1
vruzeda•

Just a note, but the apple isn't over a post, that's an arrow pointing down... I still believe it's a mention to gravity, but who knows :P

1
CTSnickyOP•

I looked it over again here, I don't see the arrow :S I see some distortion at the bottom but that's normal. Do you have another image that shows it more clearly?

1
vruzeda•

Check this: http://i.imgur.com/lu4CQ58.jpg (thanks, u/LegacyCrono)

1