Reviving and old episode of Nathan Riley’s podcast featuring midwife Kristine Lauria. If you listen to this, it’s immediately blatantly obvious how someone who has attended literally thousands of births in every circumstance imaginable, like Kristine, still has such an immense reverse and respect for an infant’s life no matter how brief that infant’s time was on earth.

Whereas when you compare Kristine’s reaction to infant mortality as a result of childbirth to Emilee’s eerily nonchalant, careless, apathetic, disrespectful and inappropriate reaction to infant death as reflected in her recent appearance on Birthing Instincts podcast, her MMI course materials (“death is a variation of normal. Death is death.”), and most notably, her reaction and support (or lack there of) toward loss moms… it’s jarring. Disturbing. Disgusting.

Kristine Lauria’s heart strings are genuinely and forcefully pulled when she is a witness to an infant’s death, and for Emilee she speaks about infant death like she talks about the weather. She can’t even feign a morsel of authentic empathy and sadness. Why? Maybe her personality disorder. Maybe because when you convince yourself that death is a variation of normal, you’re desensitized to everything. 

Whatever the reason, I feel awful for loss moms who think that by being in the Lighthouse or sharing their story on The Freebirth Society podcast, they’re somehow receiving support from Emilee.

We need more women who still have a heart and soul like Kristine Lauria.

Please have a listen to this episode. Be ready to grab a Kleenex box.

🚩 How Emilee vs. other birth professionals talk about infant death