Magenta to New Swabia: Could a Hidden Reich Explain Retro UFOs and the Antarctic Treaty?

Common UAP issues and questions addressed by this the evidence and timeline

Sources listed at the bottom below the timeline.

In his Joe Rogan interview, Grusch mentioned that whilst some species may be thousands of years more advanced, he said there was a faction that may only be a few decades ahead of the US. If this is not Russians and Chinese, whom is he referring to?

Why did many UFO’s have windows and periscopes in sightings in the 40’s and 50’s, why did many look retro in design during this period? Many of these sightings occurred before the US mastered gravity control with a prototype in 1954 per Grusch and Greer.

If the US mastered gravity control within 7 years from Roswell per Grusch and Greer, Could the Reich have done it the same time or less from the 1933 Magenta crash, given they had the best scientists in the world? Reminder – Germans developed the first cruise missile, assault rifles, jet engines, jet fighter, V2 Rocket etc.

Grusch and Greer confirm the Allies did retrieve a German anti-gravity disc at the end of the war, but it was a small prototype and wobbly. Was it left by the Germans as a psyop to imply it’s not worth exploring further and to focus on jets, rockets etc? There is some evidence to suggest the Germans built this back in 1934 and likely worked on much more advanced craft.

If advanced beings are flying around in sleek, boltless, rivet less and windowless craft, whom built and flew the others through the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s? Detailed timeline and summary of evidence below.

1933 – Magenta crash

Hitler/SS access the craft and learn everything they can from it, it is left with the Italians. If the USA ‘mastered gravity control’ in 1954 and started their secret program in 1947 post Roswell, do you we really think the Reich did not master gravity control a similar or shorter time after creating there secret program in 1933? Reminder that the German’s had the best technology and scientist in the world at that time, they developed the first cruise missiles, assault rifles, rockets, jet engines and jet fighters etc. The German scientist was so valuable that thousands of them were hired to work for the US after the war via op paperclip.

1934 - Schauberger’s Breakthrough

Viktor Schaurberger creates the first anti grav prototype powered by a zero point/quantum reactor. Low power, hovered approx. 100m high and was wobbly, but a huge success ultimately. Naturally Hitler/SS would have expanded the program massively following this breakthrough. This is the craft the Allies picked up at the end of the war per Grusch and Greer.

1936 – First Antarctic Expedition

The Reich explore Antarctica and send a few thousand there to a region with rich soil, fresh water lakes and minimal ice. Whilst they had greenhouses and were able to grow food, the plan is a failure as peoples immunity dropped to dangerous levels because of how sterile the environment is, they return home. The KGB also revealed in a documentary that the German’s had a 4 year plan to colonise Antarctica developed at this time.

1938 – Haunebu I and Vril I Prototypes

Haunebu 1/Vril 1 prototypes are made. Each craft has different methods of gravity control and power generation. These were perfectly stable and capable of hypersonic speeds. They did not have any directed energy weapons mastered yet, so these were mostly non-lethal recon/transport craft. They did attach conventional tank turrets/machine guns to some models. They did not have cameras or advanced imagery capabilities yet so vehicles still used periscopes. Something many forget is that countless sightings and photos of UFO’s in the 40’s and 50’s featured periscopes and rotating turrets underneath the craft as well as windows. The hyper advanced alien/NHI craft, are usually smooth, with no nuts, bolts, windows, or periscopes. Therefore, sightings in the 40’s and 50’s are likely German craft if they feature windows, turrets, periscopes etc. Sightings from the 60’s onwards would likely also be US craft.

1938 - New Swabia Claim

The Reich publicly declares their expedition to Antarctica and lay claim a very large region known as ‘New Swabia’. This was a public declaration and claim to land, my view is that they likely found a perfect location to colonise after the failure of 1936. Most speculation points to them finding a giant area with rich soil under the ice sheets which are approx. 1.5km deep. There are not only tunnels leading to this area but also multiple fresh water lakes and ocean access points which can be navigated by advanced subs or anti grav vehicles (that can easily go underwater). The area is rumoured to be 600k squared. Adm Byrd also publicly confirmed that the continent is rich in resources, the Reich would have everything they need there. Ambient temps in theory would be about 0 degrees under the ice sheets with zero wind (analysed with AI to verify). Vladimir T claims that not only did the Reich have Zero point/quantum reactors for infinite power, but there were also countless Geothermal vents available for power generation and warmth. The 4 year colonisation plan begins from early 1938. Conventional ships, subs, planes plus anti grav vehicles are used to haul personnel and material there. The KGB revealed a Reich map through the tunnels to reach the base/city, however the depths your required to navigate surpass the conventional/known subs the Germans had. Dismissing this theory for this reason along is a mistake as the German’s had non-conventional subs/anti grav craft capable of navigating these tunnels at extreme depths. Otherwise, why would they have developed such a map?

1942 - Battle of Los Angeles & New Swabia Progress

Debunkers state that New Swabia was a pipedream and that once ww2 commenced, the Germans did not have the interest or manpower to continue with it. This debunk attempt has been made redundant as in 2016, a Russian expedition found a Reich concrete bunker called ‘Treasure Hunter’ that they believe was built in 1943 in the midst of WW2.

In the same year, the Reich use a Haunebu 2 to carry out the battle of LA as a warning shot to try and influence peace talks and end the war. They send a single craft indicating they had not yet mass produced these, secondly, they still had not mastered any directed energy weapons at this time. This was a bluff as these craft could not actually win the war. The bluff fails, and the Allies do not accept Hitler’s numerous peace offers.

The Germans were very smart, and would have known the war was already lost by 1942/1943, therefore the war was a means to delay the Allied victory just long enough to complete there Noah’s Ark of sorts to ensure German/Reich survival and technological supremacy.  

1944 – Haunebu III and ‘Foo Fighters’ mass sightings

The much more advanced Haunebu 3 is made, which has directed energy weapons. This craft is massive, 80m wide, which would take a long time to build. The Reich was not able to produce enough of these to win the war. Per Landig, Hitler had a plan to use these to attack the UK and US and force a surrender, however he would have needed dozens of these at a minimum and it appears they did not have enough. Per Landig after flying for 50-60 hours, the outer layer of steel would crack and become brittle because of the gravity manipulation. Huge maintenance of these craft is required. If you consider an 80m wide disc, the amount of metals involved could be worth dozens of tanks as an example, along with a lengthy repair period.

The Nuclear connection doesn’t make sense for the Foo Fighter sightings in Europe. Grusch, Greer, Ross, Elizondo and countless other whistle blowers state that alien/NHI are mostly concerned about nuclear war and have been found observing nuclear sites, testing sites and nuke tests such as Roswell. The Reich never tested or developed a complete nuke, and yet, the biggest surge of UFO activity in history, first occurred in 1944 around you guessed it, Germany and Austria. Wilhelm admits, the Reich used the craft for recon missions only. Interestingly, Landig suggests there were schematics/plans for a nuclear weapon at one stage, but it was not built or ready before the end of the war.

1938–1945 – New Swabia Colonization

The colonisation of New Swabia involved conventional ships and subs hauling 100s of tonnes of material and thousands of workers in this time period. Vladimir T and the KGB documentary both reveal schematics found at the end of the war for an ‘Andromeda’ cylindrical craft. This may have been built in a normal ship yard along with other subs, but fitted to be powered by anti gravity/non conventional methods. Vladimir T said the schematics show it could haul 5000 tonnes and travel much deeper depths. Vladimir T also had some schematics demonstrating some sort of snorkel system and nuclear electric engines as opposed to an anti grav craft. The KGB/Russians seem to think the Andromeda craft was intended as an anti grav mothership/carrier/cargo hauler. There were many significant sightings of huge cylindrical/cigar shaped craft in the US in the 50’s and early 60’s.

1947 – Operation Highjump & Roswell

The Adm Byrd/operation high jump clash occurs and Roswell happens. Wilhelm Landig states that all advanced craft were removed from Germany and all factories destroyed. Many were moved into deep mountain bases they had in the Andes and Arctic. Wilhelm states they have a base and operations in Antarctica, but he did not expand further. Foolishly he was not asked more about New Swabia. One slip up from Mr Landig was that when the interviewer mentions the 1958 high altitude US nuke test, Landig said the Reich had defensive technology to block that, and believes it was blocked/nullified by The Reich. If there are nil Germans/Reich in the Arctic, why does he mention this was a possible attack from a distance on them? Vladimir T also talks about this and believes the test/attack was likely unsuccessful. Landig does not expand further and it’s interesting that the Antarctic treaty is locked in as of 1959, more on that later. Note that Wilhelm only permitted the interview be released after his death.

1950 – Facchini case

The story and artist depictions show 3 beings in black space suits (also described as divers suits) with large helmets. One uses a small ladder to get to the outside of the craft to weld a crack in the steel (referenced earlier). The depiction of these space suits show that they look something like NASA developed decades later, they do not look hyper advanced. Worth noting that Vladimir T claims the Reich had completed flights to both the Moon and Mars from 1950 onwards.

1952 – Washington D.C. UFO Flap

DC Flap UFO sighting occurs. This is the Reich warning the US again to prompt a meeting and agreement, which is speculated the US was delaying to buy more time.

1954 – Eisenhower Meeting

The infamous alien/NHI meeting with the president and MJ-12 occurs. Signs point to the Reich wanting to be left alone and warning that any attempts to attack, fire nukes on or at Antarctica are an act of war. The Reich has claimed the Moon and Mars, and no bases can be built here by any world power. The Reich requests that the US arrange and enforce an Antarctic treaty that will globally limit activity there. The treaty is signed in 1959 led by the US. It’s possible the Germans presented themselves as ‘Aryans’ or ‘Nordics’ as opposed to the Reich/SS, not sure such a psyop would have worked anyway given what the US knew of their development, op HighJump and what they learned from the Nuremberg trials. The agreement may be enforced by other NHI in that the Reich cannot attack, invade or meddle in other nations affairs, or reveal themselves and their technologies, until expiry. Interestingly, the Allied occupation of West Germany ends in 1955. This agreement would have been in the interest of the US as they would have been defenceless against this breakaway version of the Reich at this point.

1959 – The Antarctic Treaty

Signed on December 1, 1959, and entering into force on June 23, 1961, it designates Antarctica as a continent reserved for peaceful purposes and scientific research. Military incursions are prohibited and flights/activity in general is extremely limited. No nation can build out cities, military bases etc on the continent.

Some other bizarre links - Remote viewers and the Hopi Prophecy

Ingo Swan was hired by the CIA and allegedly remote-viewed a base on the far side of the moon with humanoid figures who saw him remote-viewing the site. The Reich or simply another NHI race? Ingo is the most reputable remote viewer; some others also claim to have observed human-looking beings in the Arctic as well. This suggests that the US knows the Moon is claimed or occupied. This would also explain why the US has not gone back to build a base there after so long, because they cannot do so.

The Hopi Prophecy was discussed in detail in 1972 by elder Thomas Banyacya. The elders had apparently, made contact with either NHI or spiritual beings warning them about the path humanity is on and what is to come in the future. The hopi were advised that a nation of people bearing the Iron Cross and Swastika, whom shook the entire world twice (both world wars), would return again to shift the world into the next age. I ran this through AI and the only first world nation to use both of these iconic symbols is Germany. The Hopi said, that first a man in red hat or red cape would come along first (MAGA?) and that this would begin a period of drastic change possibly good or bad that would be the precursor to the nation of people bearing the swastika and iron cross returning. The elders were told that this nation ‘survived’ after almost being destroyed in both world wars, but they barely survived and are building superior technology before returning. The elders were told their technology would disable all of earths, and they had the tech and tools to take out those of us whom are evil and helping shift us into the next age.

Sources and evidence referenced:

·       Foo fighter US gov documents covering mass UFO sightings around Germany/Austria in 1944/45 toward the end of the war

·       Up to 100 large German subs missing and unaccounted for at the end of the war

·       German sub landing in Argentina after the War on return from dropping off cargo in Antarctica

·       Approx. 2 million Germans missing or unaccounted for at the end of the war. This figure is much larger than expected even after a major war and supports the idea that a few hundred thousand at least, and up to 1 million could have moved to New Swabia

·       Wilhelm Landig – Former SS Officer -  1997 YouTube interview released posthumously as per his request

·       Russian documentary with KGB documents - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MwUpPwyyvLw&ab_channel=DavidGriffin

·       Ralf Ettl and Norbert Jürgen-Ratthofer research and books. They interviewed a large number of former SS officers and obtained photos and documents describing German anti-gravity craft

·       David Grusch and Steven Greer testimonies and interviews

·       Ross Coulthart investigations

·       Letters, documents, schematics referencing the Vril, Haunebu and Andromeda craft

·       Photo’s and sightings of craft with windows, periscopes and retro designs from the 40’s, 50’s and 60’s

·       Vladimir T research from the 80’s and 90’s

·       2016 Arctic discovery of new Reich base named Treasure Hunter

·       Gilbert Sternhoff's book "Die Dritte Macht" (translated as "The Third Power")

·       Gov documents and Ingo Swans book confirming that the CIA worked with remote viewers to survey parts of the Moon and Mars, implying the US is aware of another faction/species has claimed the Moon/Mars (explains why the US has not built bases or went back to the moon for so long) Ingo observed what appeared to be humans running a base on the Moon

·       Reddit post summarising the weirder esoteric side of Thule/Vril. The wobbly anti grav prototype picked up by the Allies at the end of the war per Grush and Dr Greer was strangely discussed here in great detail 3 years ago. This user suggested this was put together in 1934. Was it left by the Germans as a psyop to imply it’s not worth exploring further and to focus on jets, rockets etc? https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/tz8c19/vril_society/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web3x&utm_name=web3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button