CMV: there is no good realistic ending for Israel and Palestine in the next 50 years (minimum)

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First, attitudes aren’t going to change much because…

  1. Israelis feel constantly on the defensive from Palestinian attempts to kill them, wipe their country off the map, and have them discredited for the crime of existing
  2. Palestinians think Israel is committing genocide upon them
  3. Israel has nuclear weapons and cannot be strong armed in a life or death situation
  4. The world is more apathetic than it appears to be at a glance. People perceive it differently than they do South Africa so they don’t see Israel as a pariah like Nazis
  5. Jews are incredibly stoic and are willing to deal with a lot of tough shit if it means they don’t think they’ll be killed
  6. Intifadas killed any widespread support for more peace oriented political parties

Secondly, is there even a good ending?

  1. A true binational state with two groups that hate each other isn’t happening for reasons mentioned above
  2. The status quo is rather maintainable for Israel politically, diplomatically, financially, and militarily
  3. A forced takeover by Israel would probably lead to the Palestinian Territories being subdivided and not integrated into the state. While not great diplomatically, chances are Israel could survive (even if in a worse position from it).
  4. A complete Palestinian genocide would be bad for more obvious reasons
  5. If Palestinians took over Israel, I do not believe they would be disciplined and make Israelis second class citizens, commit acts of discrimination and terror like the Nazis did before WWII such as kristalnacht (even if much less severe), or just commit a genocide of their own

Posted Jun 3, 2025, 6:41 AM UTC

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