I [24M] tried to have a phone convo with avoidant girl [21F] I've been seeing, she wouldn't, I texted too much - how can I salvage this relationship?
I'll try to condense.. we had class and started talking late March, got her number April 6th and planned a date, she stood me up, after my week long vacation we had our first date April 26th. So we've been talking for 2 and a half months, "dating" for over a month. All of our dates have been 6-7 hours long spare the last one which was 3, and we've been all over each other and touched each other the first date, second did everything but sex but both really wanted to, the first night she whispered "I want you" and has said it like that every time since, talking about how much we want to have sex. I got tested for her.
We've been really romantic, her holding my head in her lap kissing my forehead, holding hands in front of 1k people on our last date both seeing people we know, her talking real sweet to me etc. but she said she "doesn't like labels" and wants to keep it casual for a while. We kissed under fireworks Friday. I surprised her with flowers at the end of the night and she was so excited and grabbed me and kissed me passionately. We do boyfriend/girlfriend shit is what I'm saying, I know a lot about her.
The issue is that she's extremely avoidant. We haven't spoken on the phone. She's been at least 45 mins late to every date, the last one being almost two hours. She has canceled 5 times. Rarely texts back in a timely manner, sometimes two days or so, which I'm ok with but not when it's something I need to know, which leads me to my next point.
It was a two day event and she said she wanted to go with me the next night, but later said she might with her mom. I said okay for sure do that (my mom's been dead for a long time so this is important to me), she said she'd let me know that night or the next day. So I waited for her and no text, 30 mins after the concert started I asked if she was good, "Ya I'm fine lol" at 4 PM the next day. I responded saying I hope she had a good night & that I high fived the performer, and this new movie we wanted to see came out.
Honestly though I was super pissed and texted at 10 PM to call me/let me know when I can, and that it's nothing serious so not to worry. No response so I called at 5 PM the next day and just texted her like a paragraph. I said I missed going to the event with my brother and cousin bc I am used to her being late/doing things last minute so I stayed at the gym late and they were gone when I came back so I went alone. I told her I know we don't see each other in class twice a week so we have disrupted communication but that I don't understand why she couldn't text me yes or no in an entire day when she said she would. I told her I'm not upset at her, but that I want to know how much time/space she needs so I don't suffocate her, and what she wants.
She responded immediately (wow!) saying she's confused and I clarified about her not telling me when we originally planned to go together. She said "Well my mom didn't give me a straight answer so I didn't even fucking end up going." I told her I understand and that's why I asked if she was okay, and that I'm sorry if that day was rough for her.
I then fucked up pretty bad, I said I'd rather have this conversation on the phone and called, no answer. I texted her that I wouldn't ever raise my voice or swear or anything like that (she's a DV victim, as am I) if she might be afraid of phone calls bc of that, that I'd just rather talk. I said it's boundaries talk, that's all, I'm not mad at her. I told her I'm sorry if she was dealing with something personal, I just want communication.
So it was about 5 texts in an hour, two sets of them grouped together, no response. I feel pretty shit about it but like this is totally fucked, I could have had a good night but instead waited around on her for nothing. It's not that hard to take 15 seconds to text someone, especially when that person paid for the admission you said you'd go with them to.
I texted this morning if she wanted to go to the movies on Friday or see the fireworks on Saturday like we originally planned. Just to change the subject so if she's afraid of confrontation that we can just move on. But I don't know if she'll even respond to me, I might have fucked it all up. Because that's six texts now, like a whole page. If I had just waited for her to respond maybe she could have said she wants to go see that movie and we could have had a good night.
I do feel bad about it but like.. am I not worth a 5 minute phone call when I mineswept an entire library during my class to bring you a brace so you're not in pain typing a 5 page essay? We don't see each other every Monday and Wednesday anymore so I just wanna touch base.. I want to know what your boundaries are, what you want, how you feel & to express how I felt. Because to be honest at this point a lot of guys would just be fed the fuck up and call it. Like yeah I'm not your boyfriend but if you can't even have a conversation with me about important shit, and important shit that benefits you, then what the fuck.
Is there any salvaging this at all?
Posted Jun 3, 2025, 5:23 PM UTC