The coming ban sure sucks, but it's not that bad as some people make it sound
Hear me out. While for sure there's a few substanes that will be dearly missed - most of what will be gone is not really, well good. At least that's my opinion Sure, few psychedelic phenethylamines, or amphetamines (psychedelic or not) because a bunch of these is quite unique. The most affected class will be of course 2-phenethylamine derivatives. So beyond a few 2C-x's or x-FMA, what is going to be so missed? Maybe 2-MMC, or even better 2-CMC? Come on.
Since it will be illegal, production of 2-MMC will totally cease becaue it is being made only because it's legal, not because it has some amazing properties. In a short time it will lose the legal status, and because of this, shitty street dealers will stop selling 2-MMC as 3- or even 4-MMC, to people as it is done really often on the street and to lesser extent online. Theres lot a posts about it here. and not everyone is posting on reddit
If you really need some pyros or substituted substituted methcathinones you could just get the originals like 4-MMC, a-PVP. NEP may likely follow these two, because while it's a derivative of pentedrone made exactly as response to banning pentedrone, it's actually a good chemical in its own right. a-PVP is too schizo.
You can still get some of the best "original" RC's really easy. These have not disappeared. Some can be obtained cheaper than what you'd pay for the same amount of some 10-th derivative of a derivative of a derivative of (...) mephedrone that is barely related to meph in terms of effects and just a shadow of the original compound. Just not legally.
Cathinones, as in their potential of discovering new, exciting chems that haven't been described, is largely exhausted. There may be a few oddballs that could be introduced to this local market and would have some potential especially compared to what's sold now - like hypothetical a-PiVP - lower homologue of a-PiHP which would almost surely be better than fluoro-PiHPs. But at this point in time... yeah.
Also, arylcyclohexlyamines aren't going away. This class has a lot of potential and we still have much to explore. There are some that are stimulants/euphoriants beyond standard dissociatvie action. There's still fun to be had.
(Actually i'm even seeing listings of these where they're sold as a substitute for cathinones, or it's kind-of suggested that it is a "replacement" by inventing new names that sound more similar to "x-MMC" than to "xx-xx-PCP")
Tryptamines also aren't going away, and same goes with LSD derivatives. There's so much more than just cheap stimulants, believe me.
Also, the sad truth is that there's nothing that can really substitute phenethylamines, period. There is nothing that coul good, and i'm not even mentioning being ridiculously cheap and relatively simple to make as phenethylamines are - especially cathinones. Legal or illegal.
As someone on here wrote recently - getting into RCs now is like "walking into the movie theater at the last 10 minutes of the movie". An era of legal cheap stimulants has come to an end, and as i said it sure isn't good. But on the other side i see some people overact like it's end of the world. What's getting mostly banned is just fiendish, really additctive trash honestly that's not even that good to begin with.
Yeah i get the argument of wanting to still buy some of their drugs legally, but there's nothing that can be done. Just get the originals. For me the fact these are long illegal is not really important. I have stopped actively following new "trends" in cathinones long time ago (as in trying out new things), and i just have a chuckle while seeing trash like 3-CEC being sold. Chinese used it as a cutting agent for 3-CMC some 7-8 years ago.
I doubt anyone still is really into the pretense of labeling unscheduled psychoactive compounds as "chemicals for analytical use", that according to some are more safe than "classic" drugs. That may have been impression for some, but maybe like 15 years ago. The only thing that is left of this illusion is the relatively clean supply, compared to most of the classics - especially if it's sold on the street. Although, at some point, it is much easier to get really good cocaine, than get a clean, nice clean batch of some RC. The 2-PEA scaffold is unique, irreplaceable, and the game of "just make the chain longer" has come to an end.
Posted Jun 15, 2025, 3:07 AM UTC