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Hi everyone

I just wanted to know what you think about this

Context: This is an answer that someone gave as to why iron man sucks and people hate him

"How about when he went on a one-man crusade against everyone, betrayed all his friends, severely beat up two Avengers, caused a jailbreak and broke several other laws? How about when he lied about not being Tony Stark so the Avengers would let him join again? How about when he faked his own death and screwed his friends over? How about when he tossed the West Coast Avengers under a bus for his own negligence of duty? How about when he killed a whole bunch of people in cold blood? How about when he bankrupted Janet just for lols? How about when he framed Hawkeye for murder? How about when he pulled a teenager's heart out with his barehands? How about when he lied and said that he couldn't finance the Avengers anymore? How about when he decided he was worthy of being one of the "smartest people" in the world to police the world? How about when he let Maria Hill guilt trip him into doing something about the Hulk? How about when he followed up by coming up with the idea to send the Hulk into space? How about the time he paid Titanium Man to attack Washington just to make a point? How about when he turned on all his friends in support of a bill? How about when he beat the crap out of Spider-Man and then set a bunch of murderers after him for having regrets? How about when he nearly orchestrated a war between humans and Atlanteans to make everyone be happy? How about when he tricked Norman Osborn into assassinating a royal ambassador and in response put him in charge of the Thunderbolts? How about when he tricked the New Avengers into thinking Cap was alive and used his body as bait? How about when he spent most his time as Director of S.H.I.E.L.D. hunting his "friends" rather than doing anything worthwhile? How about when his arrogance and belief that he could single-handedly prevent a Skrull invasion only aided it? How about when he instantly showed up, put down Hank Pym and took away two of his Avengers claiming that that was all he needed from them? How about when instead of fighting alongside Avengers or heroes, he went into hiding during Dark Reign? How about the fact he makes every damn tragedy ever about how he is a recovering alcoholic?

And he was sober for every single one of them."

I know that this long but I would really like to know what you think and if you could give the issue as to when this happened that would be great but you don't have.

Appreciate your time

Posted Jun 30, 2025, 3:02 AM UTC

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