How do I make Ableton's flanger sound more natural?

Tryna aim for sounds like

Silent treatment - Roots

https://youtu.be/B6GFtQZjy7Q?si=PJzrKkJPOYWXkZIv

Penitentiary Philosophy- Badu

https://youtu.be/-NiR-9VUArY?si=f8MXbzsj_DQxtEw9

Run to the Sun - N.e.r.d

https://youtu.be/EGY2_r93Jjw?si=9zuocJLhlm100IKn

All these songs have a subtle but pleasing flanging going on in the high end of the vocals. It seems to exist within the voice in a very balanced way that adds texture and detail to the high end but isnt completely destroying the sound. Enter the Ableton flanger and it seems like the affect just totally sounds weird over the top and unsubtle. It's probably bad technique, but ive also used guitar petals like the phase 90 and it also sounds a lot more natural right off the bat without much tweaking than the ableton phaser. Im no novice to production in general and I have a good ear but ive never figured out abletons flanger and im just wondering if the presets are not made for vocals, and wondering what I should be doing to dial it in. Or if these 90s 00s hardware flangers they were using were just different beasts and im chasing something unattainable. But its probably just user error right?