Take a shot every time Alaina says “um” or “uh”

In the episode of the 2011 Oslo Bombing and Utoya Island Massacre I’m sure if I counted the amount of times Alaina said “uh” and “um” it would be close to 300 times. No other podcast have I heard the host speak like this. It’s infuriating. Starting sentences with “um” and using it mid sentence over and over and over and over. These two have no way with words.