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Can we just admit that George loves edgey shock value and so do we? (Spoilers main)

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For whatever reason, people here fight back against the idea that asoiaf is dark, subversive and edgey. (I will not use the word "nihilistic" because it's a widely misunderstood term and many people think dark=nihilistic which is false)

I disagree. George loves shock value. He loves dark shit and exploring the worst aspects of human nature. People bashed the show for having Sansa raped by Ramsay yet in the books it's straight up implied that Jeyne Poole was raped by Ramsay's dogs. George didn't really need to go that far, yet he did. He always does it. He always promotes the worst, most nightmarous scenarios. The show actually tones down the rapes and pedophilia that exists in the books.

Another accusation I've seen is that the show spent two seasons torturing Theon. Actually, show! Theon gets off easy compared to his book counterpart. Have we forgotten that book!Theon has lost most of his fingers, most of his teeth and has white hair? Please.... Show!Ramsay is a saint compared to how he is in the books.

bUt nEd sTark iDEAls wILL wIN iN tHE eND!! We don't know what yet, do we? The books end with Jon assassinated. Anything else is just speculation. I personally doubt that any side will fully "win" in the end..

George loves edgey shit and subversions. I am dying on this hill.

Posted Aug 5, 2025, 10:04 PM UTC

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