Incentive to go Flawless
Hey, just wanted to share my experience this weekend with Trials and bounce a couple questions off you guys. Popular opinions incoming.
Played since launch. I'm a career 1.45ish K/D in crucible and a 1.15ish K/D in Trials (not KA/D to be clear). However I've taken some very long breaks from the game and now I'm lucky to break 1.0 K/D in Trials. Read: Not a complete bot, but I am not good.
My two friends (1.8ish and 1.2ish in Trials) played Friday night, went flawless (seven win streak) and got shit loot from the lighthouse. Not a surprise because they were around 250ish light, under GR7, etc.
As soon as their cards transformed into Flawless Passages, they entered the flawless pool and started having a rough time. They got frustrated and the whole vibe changed. Their loot continued to be shit, even after wins.
Once I got my light up to 200, one of my friends (1.8) and I duo'd and we won 7/8 so I snagged my shit loot from the Lighthouse. BUT, I didn't win seven in a row, so I reset, and we continued to chill and have a good time and win 7/9 or 7/10. Lighthouse again. Shit loot again, as expected, but whatever.
The issue came the Saturday when I accidentally won seven in a row. Due to not being in the flawless pool, I won three in a row in a duo with one friend, took a 1.5 hour break, came back, and won four in a row in a trio. We were having a good time and I wasn't even paying attention to my yellow squares.
Lighthouse again. Flawless. Seven in a row baby. The pinnacle PVP activity. Shit loot, my old friend. Again, par for the course and the system right now, so not super upset.
Here's where the real issue began: flawless pool jail for the rest of the weekend. Like a switch, we went from having a great time to banging our heads against a wall while we played against the Destiny Olympic team. I am NOT GOOD. I just want to play with my friends, and if I do happen to get lucky/lock in and win 6/7 or seven in a row, I would like to at least be rewarded with some decent loot. And if I'm not getting good loot from winning seven games of Trials in a row, that's when I start asking questions:
What motivates you, this season, to go flawless?
Considering high-powered guardians are receiving T4 loot from Trials losses, regardless of flawless status, which of the below applies most?
- Consecutive weeks flawless
- Glow
- Do it once, unlock the paid ornament in the Eververse
- Website stats?
- Sense of pride and accomplishment?
- 80%-90% of your opponents won't miss a headshot until Tuesday
- Lighthouse loot? (Is it significantly better than postmatch rewards at higher light levels?)
What's to stop players from resetting their card after each and every win?
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As I mentioned, I've taken long breaks from the game. I strive for more balance with how I allocate my time, so for me, playing my favorite ever game with my longtime friends is for fun and quality time. Mental wellbeing takes priority, and I would imagine most people feel similar.
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I do not care about going flawless. I know for a fact that I'll have more fun if I don't win seven in a row, so tbh I am probably going to actively avoid it. Easy for me, because again, I'm not good. BUT, what's to stop my 1.8 K/D friend from hanging out in the non-flawless pool for the entire weekend? What's to stop 3.0 K/D players who also are disillusioned by the Lighthouse?
Has there ever been a dynamic like this before in Trials?
There are plenty of seasons I didn't play, so please let me know if there was a season or situation before when there was so little perceived incentive to go flawless. How did it play out?
What are your thoughts on the new loot tiering system and reward structure of Trials?
It's pretty clear how I feel, but I am curious to hear what some of the more involved PVP community thinks of the current state of Trials.
TLDR: IMO the current landscape/reward structuret is bad for the health of Trials and I don't think it's at all sustainable. For them to have revamped Trials so rewardingly, so recently, I think this is a massive step backward.
Thanks for your time, and I hope you have a great rest of your day 👍
Posted Aug 5, 2025, 10:10 PM UTC