appletart"Bike of Theseus"•

"I find your lack of fenders disturbing"

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computron5000OP•

I tried...but they won't clear them 2.1 knobbies

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appletart"Bike of Theseus"•

Yeah, I guessed that.

In the past I've seen people try to hack together fenders to fit, but they don't realise just how incredibly dangerous that is. Besides, a bit of mud and grit never hurt anyone, but I do fear for the well-being of your brooks!

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OnSteel•

I never thought of ghetto fenders being dangerous. Care to elaborate for the ill informed?

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planification•

I don't know, that bag on the front is pretty waterproof. May help to block some of the rain. Can't see the back well, but I suppose whoever is riding back there counts as the second fender.

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appletart"Bike of Theseus"•

Fenders also protect the drivetrain.

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shedwardweek•

- and your feet (esp with mudflap). Everything really.

I've been baffled by fender-resistance all my life. I see seasoned commuters with quality bikes, Ortleib panniers and $300 jackets, yet with a dirty stripe up their back, feet and legs covered in filth.

Baffled.

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appletart"Bike of Theseus"•

Especially important on tour where you don't have the time or energy to constantly clean your bike. A dirty drive-train means poorer performance, and accelerated wear.

Having your water bottles sprayed with road-shit cannot be a good thing, and I know that the leather in those saddles will suffer greatly from the water and grit thrown up under your moving butt.

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[deleted]•

You and your lady riding it together?

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computron5000OP•

A lady, I don't own her.

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[deleted]•

Had I implied ownership, I may have said, "Do you and the lady that you own ride that together?" Semantics is for losers.

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computron5000OP•

Relax, this is the internet!

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[deleted]•

Indeed, a place where political incorrectness is unbridled.

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smckenzie23•

Just renting? (I kid, I kid!)

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stevage•

No chainguard on the timing chain? My girlfriend nearly lost her big toe that way :( Nasty scar...

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computron5000OP•

What do you mean by "clipped yourselves"?

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computron5000OP•

Nope. Is that a common occurrence?

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bikerightsSurly LHT; Santana Tandem•

Dayum, that looks like a fun machine. Congrats on the purchase.

I hope you've got some good protection for those leather saddles, however. I know, I know, you just took off the covers for the pix. Nice.

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computron5000OP•

Super fun. Grocery bags and my butt seem to protect sufficiently.

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misternicholas•

I have one of these covers & really like it: http://www.rivbike.com/product-p/s92.htm

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shedwardweek•

- and for those of us with fenders, the simple top covers are only about $10.

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computron5000OP•

...and for the rest of us, grocery bags stuffed under the seat are free, readily available, and can be used for all sorts of other things.

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bennasaurusSurly LHT "Miss Bacon"•

I never cover my brooks, how damaging is rain?

In fact I treat my whole bike like shit 80% of the time.

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shedwardweek•

Keep it treated (Proofide etc), and I think it is worth covering it in rain. Neat covers are not expensive.

The worst is if it gets too dry of oils. If it gets wet a lot but has no oils in it, it'll get brittle and break down when it gets dry again.

If it's fairly regularly treated, so has a good amount of oil, leather can stay supple and in good shape even with fairly frequent wettings. Fundamentally it's skin - living skin produces oils to keep itself in good shape, and if not you add moisturizer (oils).

But I think the risk is you'll get a lot more stretch if it gets wet a lot. I found that riding it wet once really sped up the wearing-in. But, I suspect you could get non-optimal stretch if you do it a lot; perhaps the spine will stay unstretched but the sit-bone areas will be saggy, making for pressure on the - ahem - soft tissue areas where you don't want it.

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bennasaurusSurly LHT "Miss Bacon"•

My proof ride melted all over my tools in Belgium. :-(

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appletart"Bike of Theseus"•

A few naked bike rides should sort it out.

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computron5000OP•

Just completed a it's first loaded shakedown ride on dirt. Floats over bumps like a cadillac. Super stable. Super fast. Handles great. A+. Would mtb-tand again.

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stevage•

Yeah, loaded MTB tandeming is pretty wild. We did it with a BOB. All kinds of crazy effects from the third wheel and so much momentum. A couple of times coming down a steep sleep, I completely washed out the front wheel in a rut, only to have the two rear wheels stay upright and push us through.

Also, there's nothing like the torque and weight of a tandem to pedal through a deep muddy puddle - woot!

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MathCrank•

I dunno, with two bikes you get eight panniers! But it looks rad!

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canquilt•

I love tandem riding. If only I had a place to store one. :(

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estate8143Chaka Pele•

When I go offroad touring, nearly half of the time, I am pushing or caring the bike. How do you do that with the tandem, or do you avoid difficult trails?

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computron5000OP•

I haven't ridden it on anything too serious...and I'm going to stick mostly to semi-maintained dirt roads/trails with it.

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