Hot take but gwen feels not bad? (Toplane)

I know this comes as a pretty hot take right now but I think gwen feels perfectly fine. Ive been playing a lot recently and I genuinely think she feels pretty solid(If you dont compare her to the recent times when she was 53,54% wr for the last like 6 months where I think she was definitely overtuned). Heres why I think this.

Over the last year it was always shadowflame 2nd, ahead, behind. With this much I could agree. With her current nerfs, I dont think this is the case anymore. Riftmaker is no longer what it used to be, but it is still a genuinely good item rn IF you are ahead, and in certain matchups, it is just good in general. If you are ahead and build riftmaker second, if you play the fights long enough and well enough, you will not die (not every matchup ofc garen and things still exist). Her current playstyle when ahead feels much more like mythic riftmaker gwen than 1shout build imo. You walk up to split and can easily 2v1 in the right circumstance when ahead opposed to shadowflame second.

That being said, shadowflame 2nd is still good. Rarely when ahead is it good 2nd, maybe in specific matchups, but more importantly its OP when youre behind. If youre 2-5 7cs against fiora or something, never build riftmaker. You will be 100X more valuable going full damage, looking to push and roam or base and roam looking to 1 shot someone on the map.

Of course this is my opinion, you guys feel free to disagree but I see so many people right now unsure of what to do or how to build on gwen right now, understandably so. So I hope this can help someone out looking to improve or pick up the champ. With the right mechanics and matchup knowledge, she is still very viable, even to blind pick.

Posted Oct 3, 2025, 5:15 PM UTC

716
Loading comments…