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k1ngm0

Feeling a little doom and gloom about Creations of Bile *Rant*

Post match discussion

I've played Creations of Bile pretty much since it came out, but I'm starting to feel more and more disillusioned with the detachment, because I keep loosing on points. There's simply nothing that can hold an objective for longer than a turn, or even move out of cover against ranged. The last 4 matches I played were 1:3 (all 3 losses because of points).
My tactic is relatively simple Warhammer with focus on Tempo and Control (up-trading): Firstly, I tend to pick +1 Attack on all melee weapons as the buff (rolling only in fun games). Stage Rhinos in ruins near objective markers, each carrying a Legionary Squad + Chaos Lord, and one Chosen Squad. Turn 2, I can disembark what I need to deal with any threats the opponent presents (Chosen in soft targets, Chaos Lord in hard targets). Possessed move up first, advance on to an objective turn one or stage behind/next to the Rhinos. The Terminators start on board, advance up behind the rhinos, stand ready for Heroic or a turn 3 charge. Warp Talons pick off infiltrators, Raptors are action monkey. Obliterators for some deep strike shooting and potential 9" charge. The Venom Crawler is just there to be included like the fat kid in P.E. class. Nurglings for Area Denial and to stop scouts.

I'm not sure what to change in the list or about my play style. Maybe it's the meta, because there's so much 3 Damage stuff, so many hard targets, but I feel very under-powered and not able to score. I also don't have a high budget to buy new units, and time is also a factor, since I'm going to a tournament at the end of the month. List below:

Tempo Control (2000 points)

Chaos Space Marines
Strike Force (2000 points)
Creations of Bile

CHARACTERS

Chaos Lord (125 points)
  • 1x Daemon hammer
1x Plasma pistol
  • Enhancement: Prime Test Subject

Chaos Lord (90 points)
  • 1x Daemon hammer
1x Plasma pistol

Cypher (90 points)
  • Warlord
  • 1x Cypher’s bolt pistol
1x Cypher’s plasma pistol

BATTLELINE

Cultist Mob (50 points)
  • 1x Cultist Champion
• 1x Autopistol
1x Brutal assault weapon
  • 9x Chaos Cultist
• 9x Autopistol
9x Brutal assault weapon

Legionaries (90 points)
  • 1x Aspiring Champion
• 1x Chaos Icon
1x Close combat weapon
1x Heavy melee weapon
1x Plasma pistol
  • 4x Legionary
• 2x Astartes chainsword
4x Bolt pistol
4x Close combat weapon
1x Heavy melee weapon
1x Lascannon

Legionaries (90 points)
  • 1x Aspiring Champion
• 1x Chaos Icon
1x Close combat weapon
1x Heavy melee weapon
1x Plasma pistol
  • 4x Legionary
• 2x Astartes chainsword
4x Bolt pistol
4x Close combat weapon
1x Heavy melee weapon
1x Lascannon

DEDICATED TRANSPORTS

Chaos Rhino (75 points)
  • 1x Armoured tracks
1x Combi-bolter
1x Combi-weapon
1x Havoc launcher

Chaos Rhino (75 points)
  • 1x Armoured tracks
1x Combi-bolter
1x Combi-weapon
1x Havoc launcher

OTHER DATASHEETS

Chaos Terminator Squad (180 points)
  • 1x Terminator Champion
• 1x Combi-weapon
1x Power fist
  • 4x Chaos Terminator
• 1x Chainfist
2x Combi-weapon
1x Paired accursed weapons
2x Power fist
1x Reaper autocannon

Chosen (125 points)
  • 1x Chosen Champion
• 1x Boltgun
1x Chaos Icon
1x Plasma pistol
1x Power fist
  • 4x Chosen
• 3x Accursed weapon
3x Bolt pistol
1x Boltgun
2x Combi-weapon
1x Paired accursed weapons
1x Plasma pistol

Chosen (125 points)
  • 1x Chosen Champion
• 1x Boltgun
1x Chaos Icon
1x Plasma pistol
1x Power fist
  • 4x Chosen
• 3x Accursed weapon
3x Bolt pistol
1x Boltgun
2x Combi-weapon
1x Paired accursed weapons
1x Plasma pistol

Obliterators (160 points)
  • 2x Obliterator
• 2x Crushing fists
2x Fleshmetal guns

Possessed (120 points)
  • 1x Possessed Champion
• 1x Chaos Icon
1x Hideous mutations
  • 4x Possessed
• 4x Hideous mutations

Possessed (120 points)
  • 1x Possessed Champion
• 1x Chaos Icon
1x Hideous mutations
  • 4x Possessed
• 4x Hideous mutations

Possessed (120 points)
  • 1x Possessed Champion
• 1x Chaos Icon
1x Hideous mutations
  • 4x Possessed
• 4x Hideous mutations

Raptors (90 points)
  • 1x Raptor Champion
• 1x Plasma pistol
1x Power fist
  • 4x Raptor
• 2x Astartes chainsword
2x Bolt pistol
2x Close combat weapon
2x Meltagun

Venomcrawler (110 points)
  • 2x Excruciator cannon
1x Soulflayer tendrils and claws

Warp Talons (125 points)
  • 1x Warp Talon Champion
• 1x Warp claws
  • 4x Warp Talon
• 4x Warp claws

ALLIED UNITS

Nurglings (40 points)
  • 3x Nurgling Swarm
• 3x Diseased claws and teeth

Posted Nov 3, 2025, 9:05 PM UTC

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