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silverdevilboy

Transporting Oil without teleport-tech?

Hey reddit, I was hoping you could help me with something.

I'm playing forgecraft 'hard', and I've been fortunate enough to spawn near an oil field in the sea, about 500 blocks from my base. Unfortunately, Forgecraft hard doesn't have Tesseracts, ender tanks, or even Mystcraft.

So, are there any cool tricks that people used in days of yore to transport things long distances, or am I man-modeing a 500 block railcraft system to get dat black gold?

I haven't explored Thaumcraft 4 much, so if there's a thing in there that does this I wouldn't know.

Any ideas?

EDIT: Looking at the options, there is a vanilla Ender Chest. So. Can I automate getting liquids into/out of buckets, or can I get liquids out of cells without destroying the cells?

Posted Oct 17, 2013, 10:24 PM UTC · edited

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duaiwe•

Firstly, to echo a couple others: Railcraft. This kind of stuff is basically its bread and butter. It does it, and does it well. Frankly, even in the era of tesseracts and ender storage, it's still effective. (And if the ender pearl cost of world anchors bothers you, it can be disabled in the config. We won't laugh.. much :p )

Secondly, and a bit of a digression: It's a bit fascinating to see what "hard" means in various contexts. FC3 is arguably "hard", not because it has difficult configuration settings, or because it's UHS-style hard mode. It's "hard", because it includes none of the one-block solutions that we've come to rely on for transporting entities, items, liquids, and energy.

Once again showing that sometimes, less is more. :)

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TheDrellAssassin•

I tend to echo this sentiment, though that may also be because Railcraft is one of my favorite mods. I tend to use it and minecarts to transport anything long distances within the same dimension, and really only ever use tesseracts when space is really limited, so for local in-base transport.

(I do tend to focus heavily on aesthetics, so yeah, someimes combining 10 pipes into 2 tesseracts makes sense to me, even if it isn't the most efficient way in terms of costs when I could use pipes and expand the area for much cheaper)

Anyway, agreed!

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zorno•

I've relied on Tesseracts too much being a relatively new player, and want to get into railcraft, but I've read more than once that chunk loader carts aren't reliable. If not, how can you use railcraft reliably?

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TheDrellAssassin•

I've personally never had much of an issue with the chunk cart loaders, though I've also largely played SSP rather than SMP. I'm currently working on a rail network on my server now though, so I'll let you know if I have any issues with it when I get them running. (Sorry for my delayed reply, I've been away)

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zorno•

Interesting I didn't think you needed chunk loaders in ssp. I'll find out how well they work in smp soon I guess. Thanks for replying

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Tsevion•

I'm pretty sure the Vanilla Ender Chest doesn't work with automation at all, since its inventory is tied to the player, not the object.

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phatty•

You know. I hate to suggest this, but 500 blocks of pipe is only 128 gold. You could make a single run of it and it could be effective. You could even use stone. ...However, thats alot of waterproof. so good luck with that.

Aleternativly, you could probably make a rail craft tank car with liquid loaders.

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Riece99•

He could also Have a cart system with a tank cart that uses the nether as a faster transport system. And 128 gold is a good amount before you have automated mining/ore doubling.

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silverdevilboyOP•

I do have automated ore doubling, but no auto-mining yet. I think there's a thaumcraft bore, and the Miners from BC and IC2, but I'm just gonna chill til I have a Quarry. :P

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Riece99•

Ohh, nice. And Ya, without CC, Quarry is most definitely the way to go.

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Artector42•

Was going to suggest sending trains through the nether to shorten the distance. ~60 < ~500

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Riece99•

Ya. THis is what the people are fg3 are doing to go to other peoples houses, cause, you know, no mystcraft :C. With a train system, Nether transport can actually be a pretty viable way of transporting things in the future if people dont like going the typical way :D

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mrbaggins•

Is there an effective way to get Railcraft systems via the nether, or are you manually getting stuff cross dimensionally?

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Riece99•

if you watch some of dw20's forgecraft 2 vids where he does trains, you can see a pretty effective way to us carts cross dimension. works really well, if you know like, basic railcraft logic

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mrbaggins•

That's via Mystcraft, which they aren't using though.

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silverdevilboyOP•

Yeah, but 500 pipe waterproof is a lotta cactus, and a LOT of chunks to load.

Railcraft is my plan for now, I was just poking reddit to see if there's something someone smarter than me figured out.

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j933291•

Just a tip, going through the nether will cut the length of your rail down by about 440 blocks.

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YoraeRyong•

BC Waterproof pipes over long distances would cause horrific performance issues AND require bunches of loaded chunks.

Railcraft with a single chunkloader cart is probably a better idea.

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MysteriousAgesMagicBees Dev•

The Railcraft chunkloading carts use 1 ender pearl per 12 hours. Even if you have a looting sword, that's not unmanageable. 1 stack = 8 days.

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joaopada•

1 Ender pearl = 12 hours.

2 Ender pearls = 24 hours or 1 day.

16 Ender pearls = 192 hours or 8 days. Am I correct?

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Dragkiller43•

You could make a pipeline all the way there, but that really isn't that much fun. I would recommend a railcraft system, it doesn't take that much iron to go 500 blocks, and when you finish making it, it makes you feel like you accomplished something.

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Glurak•

I don't know if Thaumcraft 4 kept it, but Thaumcraft 3 had Magic Mirror capable of teleporting items (like oil buckets).

edit: Just checked Thaumcraft 4 cheat sheet. Magic Mirrors are still there.

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Glurak•

Fill whole stacks of cells ( or cans or wax capsules ) with that oil. These stacks, thus allows having 64 buckets worth of oil in just one inventory spot. To empty the cells use Liquid Transposer, as Liquid Transposer will not destroy the container, but return it empty.

edit: ouch, poor TE haven't made it to 1.6 :-(

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silverdevilboyOP•

TE is not in 1.6

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Zexks•

Teleport pipes for 1.6.2

I'm using 1.6.4 and the world loads with them installed, haven't made it up enough to try them yet through. Bout the easiest other way, without loosing resources to cells/cans is just build a super long pipe. If you're next to the biome, it's not like you'll be wasting them. They're also a lot easier and cheaper than a RC solution.

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Spaceshipable•

Does thaumcraft 4 have those magic mirrors? You could probably use them too.

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Spaceshipable•

You could use applied energistics but that'd be very expensive or you could try ic2 tele-porters with golems? Not sure if that would work though.

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Spaceshipable•

I'd probably go with the bucket filling and un-filling personally then stick them in the enderchest to get them back to base. Not sure what mods are on forgecraft hard though so not sure how easy it'd be to fill buckets.

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Dugen•

Vanilla ender chests can't interact with machines as far as I know, only players. If they do work, then since the inventory is dependant on who access it, who would a machine act as?

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rridgway•

This makes me wonder what happens when a TC golem is assigned to them...

Edit: It can't be. Figures.

As well, MFR ranchers will output to somewhere when placed beside one.

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Spaceshipable•

Not even with a hopper?

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