Expedition Should Be A Flat Reward For All

Discussion

If everyone was rewarded the same flat skill point increase for participating in expedition there’d likely be more engagement in the system and healthier gameplay loops (less hoarding).

It’s pretty evident development philosophy is lacking in some areas of the game and there’s design philosophy issues with “wipes” creating opposing gameplay loops, lack of incentives for many to outweigh their personal losses, and late information exaggerates the issues:

  • Stash value tied to benefits further increases risk to using “good” gear, further incentivizing using whites and exaggerating the gear progression issues
  • The objective should be building your project, not some arbitrarily chosen value messaged to players 10 days before the information was needed
  • Once the objective (the project) is met, ALL players participating in the wipe should receive the SAME permanent benefit
  • After the project is complete you should be able to elect to lock in the wipe, for some they may desire to wipe but may not be able to during the random 7 day window. Let them lock it in whenever they are confident.

Also… these values still aren’t stated in game and have to be found through forum posts…

Bottom line: Devs need to really think through what their philosophy’s on aspects of the game is. If they want to keep it fresh they need to incentivize wiping. If they want players to WANT to use upgraded gear, higher rarity gear, and good attachments they probably shouldn’t tie stash value to permanent rewards. This will continue to reinforce actively choosing to use the cheapest loadouts. Obviously weapon balance and developer philosophy on gear progression needs to be refined as well… but just speaking on the expedition front. Also, their activity schedule better match the wipe schedule. If everyone wipes then they drop challenging content the same week people will feel duped and reconsider in the future. Same for weapon balance. If the tempest becomes insane after everyone loses their tempest BP before it does it’ll also feel terrible.

I want this to be a good system, but cracks keep growing…

Posted Dec 7, 2025, 4:54 AM UTC

10
Loading comments…