Luke 22: 35-38

I was in a discussion with someone who tried to make the claim that these verses were used to try and shoehorn in a technically complete prophecy for Jesus. Their claim was "The prophecy that Jesus quotes Isaiah 53:12 was fulfilled by there being two swords present that night." The prophecy was quoted in that chapter of Luke and matched pretty much exactly what was written in Isaiah: "And he was numbered with the transgressors".

My question and point of clarification is asking about two things and hopefully scholarly sources to help.

The first, in the earlier verses Jesus tells his disciples to "take" swords with them, rather than to "bring" swords to Him. Is this an accurate translation of tenses? If so, wouldn't that imply in the context of discussing their past mission mean that the instruction is for future missions?

The second, in the prophecy quoted the word is "transgressor" which just means "someone who broke the law or a rule" and that doesn't imply in anyway that a sword being present was necessary. Is that an accurate translation? Especially, when the given context of later verse where they were coming to arrest Jesus for His transgressions against the temple and supposedly Rome, He didn't need a sword to be considered a transgressor, correct?

Thank you for your time in advance.

Posted Dec 7, 2025, 11:41 PM UTC

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