On this week's episode of *American Alchemy*, Jesse Michels interviewed Chris Bledsoe. In this clip, Jesse and Chris talk about one of the many times various government, intelligence, and aerospace figures joined Chris and other civilians to witness his now well-documented "summoning" of UAP/orbs. 

Chris describes a high-ranking NASA official introducing himself at one of Chris’s dinner-and-skywatch gatherings as a “huge fan.” Jesse points out the “crazy” contradiction between NASA’s public messaging and its private interest.  
  
**\[From Jesse's video description\]:**  
  
*"Chris Bledsoe is not just a UFO experiencer. He spent years in direct contact with Tim Taylor, a senior NASA mission controller who repeatedly entered his life after Bledsoe’s 2007 encounter. In this episode, Bledsoe describes Taylor’s involvement in recovered exotic materials, trips to Zanesville, Ohio, the birthplace of anti-gravity researcher Thomas Townsend Brown, and direct conversations about classified aerospace research, time-related operations, and a small group tied to mid-century electrogravitics work."*

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\[Chris\] “While we were havin’ dinner—you’re talkin’ about NASA people… this guy walks up… and he gives me a big hug and says, ‘Chris, I’m a huge fan,’ and he introduced me to his son—we’ve never met, right, but he was one of the highest-ranking guys at NASA… he walks up, hugs me and says, ‘I’m a *huge* fan of yours’… NASA… yeah, so—”

\[Jesse\] “—Why is NASA... publicly—”

\[Chris\] “—It’s their policy—”

\[Jesse\] “—They’re gaslighting the public—”

\[Chris\] “—The people there… are just like me and you.”

\[Jesse\] “It’s so funny, ‘cuz it’s like, you see them publicly… they’re doing this thing on 3I/ATLAS, and it’s like, the photo is the resolution of—it’s like you’re looking at a lamppost… it’s like a streetlight or something… it’s horrible—and amateur astronomers are getting better stuff—”

\[Chris\] “—Exactly.”

\[Jesse\] “—And then privately they’re going to you saying, ‘We’re big fans’… so interesting.”

\[Chris\] “Isn’t that crazy?”

\[Jesse\] “It *is* crazy… and it’s a little frustrating… it’s like, can you... close the gap a little bit between your public and your private… perception?”

  
[Full Interview](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM18PJY6_Zc)

Hey NASA—can you close the gap between your public messaging and private interest?