Is it just me or do some Socionics subtypes sound like with their possible MBTI correlations?

I talk about typology nearly every day with an IEE friend and this comes up occasionally.

Since I helped them type themselves, I only know so far the subtypes for IEE and EII. It seems like MBTI ENFJ+ENFP make up IEEs & MBTI INFJ+INFP end up being EIIs. With the rest of the MBTI NFs spliting into Beta quadra IEI/EIE.

Firstly, EII-Fi:

> The ethical subtype appears polite, restrained, and impassive. Usually keeps some distance in communication, at times seems cold, firm, and unemotional. In the process of dialogue, however, this impression gradually dissipates as he begins to sympathize and shows his desire to help and assist. Serious, calm, and well-wishing person. Quite insightful but reserved and rarely shares his observations. Fastidious and tactful. Doesn’t know how to joke, feels afraid of saying something in excess. During arguments prefers to leave silently without resorting to diplomacy. Very hardworking, meticulous, patient, and diligent. Intolerant of violence and injustice. Consistent and firm in his principles.

…sounds like INFJ.

EII-Ne:

> The intuitive subtype is emotional, composed, and firm. Shows cordiality, goodwill, and friendliness toward people who are in his favor. Closing distance with a person tries to be somehow useful and of service. Likes to advise, to mentor, to educate others but only within his circle. Possesses figurative and imaginative thinking and creative abilities, can discuss various imagery, symbols, dreams. Sensitive, vulnerable, uncertain and erratic. Prone to taking offense despite his best attempts to hide this. Sometimes he likes to joke around in conversation. Tries not to say unpleasant things to people, but cannot always restrain himself and may burst out in disagreement or indignation, but comes to regret it later. Serious and fastidious, prefers to hold himself with some reserve and subtlety.

…sounds like INFP. Some say archetypal INFP is IEI but this sounds exactly like me, as a strong MBTI Ne-user. I’m a huge jokester with very flexible creative thinking!

Taking IEEs —

IEE-Ne:

> The intuitive subtype makes an impression of a person somewhat torn away from reality, internally focused, and at the same time scattered. Inclined to unexpected contrasts in behavior: shyness and apathy are suddenly replaced by emotional elation, decisiveness, and activity, the melancholic look on his face changes to inspired and joyful. Thoughtful and impulsive, optimistic and suppressed, timid and energetic, he imparts very varied impressions on others. Internally inconsistent, vulnerable, easily offended, but hides his problems under a mask of being carefree. Tries to be friendly with everyone, strives to understand all people, to favor everyone with his smile. Attentive, soft and tactful, predisposing towards trust. Willingly delves into the problems of others, tries to find a way out of difficult position and to give useful advice. Defends his views emotionally. Can exert psychological pressure on his opposition.

…just really sounds like a very polite ENFJ, with the classic introspective lean.

Lastly, IEE-Fi:

> The ethical subtype is artistic, impatient, a little extravagant. Unpredictable in his actions and statements. Like to surprise or entertain people around him, and even insignificant events present as big sensations. Frequently becomes the soul of the company: he is self-assured, has a good sense of humor, independent, original, and very impulsive. Characterized by a kind of sincerity and spontaneity similar to a small child who doesn’t hide his feelings. Can create familiar, homelike environment for communication even with unfamiliar to him people. Readily gives compliments, voices his admirations of people around him. Optimistic and amiable. Charming and coquettish, but too direct and rash in his statements and actions. This creates an impression of seeming availability or theatricality. At times assertive and pushy, periodically becomes focused.

…is pretty much a LOT like what I imagined an ENFP would be like when I first got into typology!! And ENFP are my favorite types in MBTI, possibly because may type as my mirrors? (I love IEE overall tho <3)

I haven’t really known what to make of the IEI+EIE subtypes though if we were talking about “the Humanitarians.” I read them, just forgot. I also read the LSE subtypes but dunno if outside of MBTI NFs/Socionics NFs if the correlations get decked out similarly.

I know MBTI INTx get split between ILI+LII for instance, ISFx being both a bunch of SEI (so I presume the other half split into ESI?), ISTx between SLI (mainly ISTP)+LSI.

I know very little of the extroverts.

Did anyone notice a similar effect for whatever your MBTI type was to your Socionics subtype?