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Lanky_Ronin

Help With Transition to Ryan Hall Outside Funk from Bottom Turtle Overwrap

Technique

Hey all,

I tend to move through turtle often during my rolls, and had developed solid defense and movement from turtle but was not able to mount much offense until recently when I implemented using the overwrap grip I saw Craig Jones describe in his power bottom DvD on a rewatch.

Additionally, I have also been playing around with the outside funk position Ryan Hall lays out here and I realized that the overwrap grip on the leg is the same grip Ryan Hall uses from the outside funk position. Accordingly, I have been trying to play around with transitioning from the overwrap grip to outside funk during training.

When I fully transition from to the position he describes successfully, I can feel that it is genuinely a pretty strong position and things tend to work out well. However, making that transition work during rolls successfully has had mixed results. Namely, against some opponents I have much more difficulty avoiding my partner threatening to get a back hook with their free leg, and I this results in me have a difficult time getting perpendicular with my butt all the way to the mat to solidify the position

If anyone else has been playing around with transitioning between these two positions by chance and has any thoughts or videos they could direct me to for answers, I would love the help.

Thanks!

Posted Mar 6, 2026, 4:20 AM UTC

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