28M Never had Jobud but when stroking the thoughts return

I’ve never had a Jobud situation or anything close to it. Where many of the stories here seem to have that “did it when I was younger and miss it vibe” I can’t say the same.

Only ever had experiences with girls and sex is great. No complaints.

But when jerking and watching porn I can get into what the guy is doing to her, as much as watching her. Have MFM fantasies but assume I am not this adventurous to try or make happen. Seems a bit complicated.

Then Jobuds. The idea of hearing what a fellow straight guy means about the porn, what he would do to her while he is also stroking next to me… and connecting his thoughts to what he is doing and knowing how he feels…the idea of it can send me over the edge when I’m jerking.

But after I shoot, a bit disgusted with myself if I am honest and have no running fantasy of this other than at times when I’m very horny.

Are there other straight guys out there that haven’t done a Jobud situation before but at times the thought can send you over? But it’s not your main kink?

Not even sure if I’m making sense, so I’ll stop here.