Recently been trying to get my next pair after using scarpa origins, the fit wasnt great but not bad and comfortable for starting, with time they stretched like 1 size more or less and currently im having issues with heel hooks and the feeling of not getting enough power and support at the toes while on small holds in rock and gym, i’ve tried almost everything on the shops nearby, main issues: wide feet (10.5cm) and what it looks like shallow heels.. never expected it since i had problems all my life with shoes being small for my size. 

Ive tried: 

\-Vapor laces and vapor v/s ( toe unforgiving pain on the outside ) 

\-Dragos and all the versions of it are too soft for what im looking 

\- katana laces/velcro (terrific midfoot pain) 

\- miura same as katana 

\- skwama (pinky toe pain that doesnt give in and baggy heels) 

\- solution, not even able to reach the end of the shoes 

\- kubos baggy heels 

\- otaki the same

“Near good” :

\-Evolv shaman, front is perfect but heels kinda moves a bit (and very little fart noises) when i apply pressure in the front and heel hook 

\-Evolv phantom, same as skwamas with a bit more bag at the bottom 

Scarpa instinct vsr and lv, bit of a bag at the bottom in both of them being nicer the regular vsr for the front.

I wanted to try unparallel but the difficulty to get them in spain and the mixed opinions on the fit makes it more confusing.. 

I do indoors and outdoors 60/40 more or less and sport and boulder 60/40 too 

If anybody has something to share or recommend me i would be grateful! 

Getting crazy about fit