**This is a follow‑up to my last post, which you can read here:** [https://www.reddit.com/r/PoppyPlaytime/comments/1rk562t/my\_two\_cents\_on\_the\_toy\_aging\_debate/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PoppyPlaytime/comments/1rk562t/my_two_cents_on_the_toy_aging_debate/)

As always, I don’t know how to tag this as I feel like this could count as a theory too, since we still don’t fully know what’s going on behind the scenes yet. I copied and pasted this from a response I made to another Redditor because I thought it was interesting enough for others to think about and form their own conclusions. I’m also a huge science nerd and love talking about this stuff lol.

***Alright, let’s begin.***

To the people in the “They’re still children” crowd — while I appreciate the passion behind that interpretation, I strongly disagree with the idea that this is confirmed by the narrative. The claim that Stella’s speech or Ms. Gracie’s **ASMR** lines in Chapter 5 prove the experiments are children is speculative at best. These are thematic elements, not hard lore. Stella’s monologue is philosophical, not literal, and Ms. Gracie’s “**stay a child forever**” rhetoric is clearly part of a psychological manipulation tactic, not a biological fact about the experiments.

Let’s also remember that the developers themselves have expressed differing views. Amber’s headcanons are not canon, and she has contradicted the lore multiple times. The lore is intentionally ambiguous right now — MOB has been vague on purpose, either because the story is still developing or because they’re trying to avoid unnecessary conflict in the fandom.

The main argument for “**they’re all children**” hinges on trauma causing regression. And yes, trauma can cause regression — but regression ≠ childhood. A traumatized adult can act childlike without being a child. The Prototype is a perfect example: he shows severe psychological damage, but his actions — surgeries, inventions, calculated manipulation — do not match a child’s cognitive abilities. He reads as a mentally stunted, traumatized adult, not an eternal child.

The toys’ psychological states vary. Some may still be children because they were transformed as toddlers or young kids. Others were older children or teens when transformed, meaning they would have continued developing mentally. The narrative does not confirm that all toys are children, and the evidence used to support that claim is interpretive, not definitive. Many may be children — but not all. You can’t give certain toys adult-coded traits and still expect everyone to believe they’re children. It feels more like shock value than consistent storytelling.

And unlike FNAF, these characters are organic biological beings with their original human brains. **We have no confirmation that the devs removed:**

• Growth hormones

• Thyroid hormones

• Adrenal hormones

• Myelination processes

• Synaptic pruning

• Neurotransmitter regulation

• Environmental stimulation

The lore never states this. In fact, Huggy Wuggy is supposedly confirmed to still have a thyroid **(don’t quote me on that though)**, and Bron’s thyroid glands were devoured in the “**RESTRICTED\_restoration.mp4**” tape — meaning he had them to begin with. Thyroid glands produce hormones. So the “they stay children forever” idea doesn’t hold up when you consider these biological factors.

**If the toys still have:**

• Their original human brains

• Organic biological systems

• The ability to think, learn, and adapt

Then they cannot be permanently locked into a child’s mind unless:

1. The devs explicitly state all hormonal and neurological development was removed

2. The brain was artificially frozen in a prepubescent state

3. The experiments were designed to suppress all cognitive maturation

None of this is confirmed in canon (as of now).

So the “they stay children forever” argument is based on assumption, not evidence.

Why adult-coded behaviors break the child theory

**You still cannot explain:**

• The Prototype performing surgery

• Gilbet showing adult emotional restraint

• Mommy Long Legs demonstrating complex manipulation

• Poppy using advanced vocabulary and reasoning

**These require:**

• Developed frontal lobes

• Executive function

• Long-term planning

• Emotional regulation

• High-level cognition

**Mental age ≠ physical age.**

What if the devs removed all hormonal components?

**If they removed every hormone needed for brain maturation, the toys would:**

• Have no emotional regulation

• Have no long-term planning

• Have no impulse control

• Be unable to perform complex tasks

• Be cognitively frozen at the age they were turned

**But that contradicts:**

• The Prototype’s intelligence

• Poppy’s reasoning

• Mommy Long Legs’ manipulation

• DogDay’s emotional nuance

• Gilbet’s maturity

And again — adults can act childish too. “**Childish**” describes behavior, not biology. Adults can:

• regress

• throw tantrums

• act immature

• be impulsive

• behave younger than their age

That doesn’t make them children.

***In short***

**Childish behavior ≠ being a child.**

It just means someone’s behavior is underdeveloped, not their age.

The only thing that might have been removed is puberty — which would make sense, since they’re toys.

**On the sensitive topic**

I understand why this topic is sensitive. Unfortunately, weirdos exist and will always target childlike or mentally vulnerable characters. That’s disgusting and deserves criticism. But people are throwing around accusations like “**PDF file**” way too loosely. Most people are simping for the design, not the child the character once was. You can separate the two **(even if it’s still a bit weird)**. AUs and headcanons exist. These are fictional characters.

If people care that much, maybe put that energy into stopping actual predators and helping real victims.

I just wish people would focus more on the lore and science instead of obsessing over the “**child**” aspect, because it’s causing unnecessary drama — and MOB being intentionally vague isn’t helping **(for now, anyway)**.

So what do you guys think about all of this? Let me know in the comments below and tell me your own thoughts and theories on the topic. 🤔

**(No arguments in the comments please 😑)**

To add onto my “The toys don’t age” discussion/theory.