In another abhorrent display of just why Aaron Smith-Levin has no right to be President of a foundation that claims to help Scientology survivors, he continues his nonstop attack on the people who fled the alleged foundation he claims helps survivors. This is a mirror image of Scientology’s playbook. Someone leaves, you claim they are bad and they were bad from the start. I will be doing a deep dive of the history of this imploding foundation in the near future. This is just a recap of his most recent attacks.

He recently did a members only stream with Natalie. Unlike his over the top unhinged screaming with Marilyn, Aaron seems almost calm. But his words reflect the true state of his mind.

Natalie admits she hasn’t done any videos since last May. This means her subscribers have paid her for ten months of nothing. She gives excuses…new job, moving, living on her own for the first time in her adult life, etc. she says she will do videos again…in the future.

From the start of the video, Aaron immediately takes the opportunity to attack Nora “when Nora blinks her eyes the whole world disappears.”  He then justifies saying bad things about Nora because he claims she has attacked every member of SPTV and all his friends. So he says she forced him to do members only videos to give her a taste of her own medicine. Then he virtuously states he does these attacks as members only do they don’t mix with his message.

Natalie says there is so much falsehood going around and Nora is the main source. Natalie says says he was in a cult for 35 years. She says Scientology is the source of her problems. She then blames Nora for doxxing the home address Aaron published on the Secretary of State’s site. 

Florida law allows a business address for each person in the Corporation. Of course, there is no business address for SPTV Foundation. The members could have all had a PO Box if Aaron had bothered to do that even. Yet they both blame Nora for what Aaron did. (She, too, could have redacted the addresses, there is plenty if blame to go around.)

Then Natalie, claimed she felt unsafe in her own house. Even though she already planned to move. Aaron speaks up to say that Natalie is fair game to Nora because Natalie and Aaron are friends. 

Natalie, says “I always ran my channel as a business and you know it's what I was doing full time. That was my job. So the decisions I would make would be it's what's in the best interest of, you know, my audience in this channel to be successful.” While no videos have been posted for 10 months.

The conversation devolves to how people who were not in Scientology can’t possibly understand what they went through. Natalie discusses the fact that continuing to discuss the same trauma over and over can retraumatize victims. She and Aaron don’t see the irony in that discussion.

Aaron talks about how Nora can’t help how she is, but he believes she is mentally ill and “none of us have the right to weaponized our trauma.” 

Natalie claims she doesn’t weaponize having grown up in a cult. She then discussed life after Tony was like, learning how to live again. 

Aaron says he’s never done an attack video on someone unless they attack first. He says he’s not like Scientology, they attack first. He then went on to claim that Nora was being paid by the same person who paid one of Nora’s tormentors. 

Aaron complained about Nora traveling across the country to be at his pretrial. He said her head was too big. Natalie said it was a gorgeous head, if anyone was meant to be bald, it was Nora. That was impressive to hear from her while Aaron was goading her to attack. Aaron again said Nora was mentally ill and accused her wife of goading her on. Aaron says Nora said she was going to stop talking about him after the trial but then she went members only and continued so Nora forced Aaron to attack her.

Natalie and Aaron then began analyzing Nora’s psychological state. This is interesting for a man who claims therapy doesn’t work. Aaron says Nora has an unfalsifiable feedback loop where she says “he’s attacking me so I’m doing it right.” He ends this with “If I do say anything, it's evidence to her that she's really getting to me. So she's gonna keep going. It's it's all unfalsifiable to her.”

Natalie chimes in that Nora has been telling people on video to attack her (Natalie) and Aaron.

Aaron then says says about Nora:

“We've never had some cruel mean relationship with each other. I've never done anything but try to help Nora, and even when I did, the video being like, OK, I'm not gonna support, you know, I'm not gonna platform people on my channel. I didn't call her out. I didn't insult her. I didn't say her name and I got on the phone with her afterwards. For two hours and told her all the ways in which I was going to help her through this and keep her enemies from using my words against her and. And then she's like, Aaron's a narcissist. Like, I think Nora is a malignant narcissist I actually do. I mean, I truly think she is. I mean it's a classic thing of. You know, people constantly accusing others of the things they're doing. It's funny because that's a big thing that L. Ron Hubbard said in Scientology. So I tend to equate it with Scientology, but it's not a Scientology concept. It is not a Scientology concept of people obsessively accusing other people of the things they themselves do. And that's like, that's like exactly what Nora does. She's obsessed with calling people malignant narcissists because she is one.”

Aaron says Nora used to do good videos - back when they did them together. Then says Nora has never let go of being a Sea Org member.

Natalie discusses how she’s done some reflection and thinks dwelling on trauma is a bad thing, she wants to go more towards the positives in life. She says she is learning to cook and do her own laundry because Tony did that for her. She talks about how Tony taught her to care for herself. She also talks about having a job. The conversation pivots to Nora needing someone to teach her self care.

The conversation pivots to Liz and Nora working together. There is discussion of the 27 page email and the bomb Nora said she was going to drop after Aaron’s trial.

The discussion about Liz and Nora goes on for a comically long time. Aaron keeps pulling up older and older slights and arguments. Instead of making them look bad, he shines the spotlight on his pettiness. He goes so far as to say “Liz wants to work out her personal demons on the internet.”

They begin talking about the first board meeting of the SPTV Foundation. It was December 23, 2023. \[Note: The original filing with the Florida Secretary of State for the SPTV Foundation is January 11, 2024.\] Aaron, in a rare moment of accountability says “Which is the first board meeting that? We ever had. God, I yelled at Christy Gordon and treated her so poorly that she immediately resigned after that meeting.” They backtrack at that point and decide that Christie didn’t resign until the April 2024 meeting.

There is a long discussion about people spamming the SPTV foundation email claiming to be \[a former Scientologist we will call X who has asked me to please leave him out of this\]. Aaron makes it clear he would never give X money because he doesn’t like him. Aaron and Jenna are supposed to have been the only ones who saw these emails but Aaron accused Reese, Dylan and Liz of spreading the lies about it in their YouTube channels. There was only one channel where this rumor was spread. And it wasn’t them. u/inco can provide the clip if he deems it appropriate.

Then Aaron starts talking about another application from a woman named Rachel. This is the level of confidentiality you can expect from this Foundation. They actually start giving out the first names of a few people they say the foundation helped and where they are from. I will not repeat that here for the sake of those people.

Aaron segues into his boasting about being David Miscavige’s worst nightmare. Then he blurts out the last name of the person he remembered that they helped. Repeats his full names his profession and where he’s from. Then claims they funded this guys education.

Aaron segues to saying that Reese has been lying about him since she left the board. And then he begins to attack former board member Dylan Gil. Sorry, I’m losing track on the scorecard here, is anyone left?

Natalie tried to lead Aaron down a more conciliatory path. Aaron said “Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'll tell you, since I've already opened the can of worms, I don't. I don’t mind dumping it out a little bit here, you know, the the reason Reese wouldn't do that is because she never like, like, what went wrong with Reese isn't. Oh, I should have picked up the phone. No, no, no. Reese's intentions is what were wrong. Like she wasn't. She was lying and deceiving from the beginning, you know, and you know, the truth is, every time I even mentioned Reese's name once, she'll do 16 hours of video making up all sorts of crazy stories.” He droned on about the difference between being out of Scientology and under the radar. Finally ending with “well, yeah, anyway, she was never going to pick up the phone.“

Aaron then accuses Reese of egging Nora on because “drama sells, Natalie, drama sells.”

At this point they go to the starred chats. During this, Aaron, the president of a Foundation that is supposed to help victims of Scientology who has already previously stated in this same stream he wouldn’t help one other person “because he doesn’t like him” responded:

**“Yeah, I can just hear them now being like, oh, my God, do you see how afraid they are of you continuing on? Nora, you've got them right where you want him. Don't ever stop. And it's like. Keep going forever, Nora. Keep going forever for all I care, because it will destroy you. And at this point, that's totally OK with me. I'm not here to save you. I'm not here to save you. I'm here to show you what it feels like to have someone dedicated to ridiculing you and denigrating you and degrading you and insulting you online. The only thing is. I don't have to make up the \*\*\*\* that I say about you. I can just literally talk about this \*\*\*\* that you've been doing for the last year and a half. I'm not pretending to be some virtuous guy here trying to save you from yourself. I don't give a \*\*\*\*. You can run yourself right off a \*\*\*\*\*\*\* cliff. It will make no difference**.”

There were a few questions after that but you get the idea. It doesn’t get more real than that.

Credit  to u/inco for the header photo.

Aaron Smith-Levin President of SPTV Foundation to Nora “Run Yourself Off a Cliff — I Don’t Care”