meant to write "in this case" woops typo!

  
also sorry Certain Dwt2 User that i ss'd the post of, i needed screenshots of those specific anti-anti-dream arguments and your post happened to contain all of them

  


I really don't think that the original (keyword: original) people making accusations about dream cheating care about clout to the extent some say. (though I do think certain mcyts/twitter celebs are consciously trying to get banger tweets...)

"But why are they bringing up something that happened years ago?" Someone happened to have watched dream's parkour warrior gameplay because supposedly he did a certain technical parkour trick. That person was in Hamm's community, and then brought it up to him after noticing suspicious behaviour, who then watched it live on stream.

"But why didn't anybody notice back then if it was supposedly so obvious?" The venn diagram of 'people good enough back then to immediately notice what happened" and 'people who watched dream/mcc back then' are two distinct circles. Even many dream fans might not have watched MCC. 

Also, it's not because everyone sucked back then. 1.8 parkour was already super developed back then, it's just that parkour doesn't really make for good content, so unless you're already in those circles you never heard about it. (For similar reasons, that's also why MCC replaced pkw with the modern version, which is much better).

"Why should I care?" Well, you don't have to. It's fair to say that you're burnt out from all the undue drama Dream's gotten into, or to say that you only care about his manhunts/videos. But if it turns out that Dream has indeed cheated, it also means that he actively doubled down and lied for it the past month or so.

(and also it's breaking competitive integrity, but again, it's fine that not everyone cares about that)



As an aside:

I do personally think the original accusations were just not well made. Sandwichlord's video comes to mind, but also hamm's original stream wasn't intended to be any 'final' public accusation. His audience is mostly fellow parkour players, so in that situation it wasn't really that important to be super rigorous about it, especially since it was a relatively normal livestream rather than a specific video on the Dream controversy. 

I also think Karl Jobst's video does a pretty good job at talking about the situation. Although, I think he discredits the parkour pro's arguments way too much. To quote a random message in a parkour discord, "It felt like he was trying so hard to be neutral that he wrapped around to giving dream undue leniency."

i think the goomba fallacy should considered more